Buddhism is NOT a form of Hinduism

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Hindu's are always quick to point out that Buddhism is a form of Hinduism, but they're wrong and here's why...

As the comments on this page show, this is a controversial topic. I do hope that most readers will perceive I don't actually hate Hinduism or individual Hindu's. This page was made in response to Hindu's claiming Buddhism is really Hinduism. Nothing more. I choose Buddhism myself, after having studied both for over a decade. I do feel that as a spiritual path Buddhism is the cleaner choice. However, I also realize that it's not for everyone.

Ultimately what decides a person is not the religion they identify with, but their actions, their words and their thoughts. There are excellent Christians, Muslims, Jews as well as Hindus. People like Mother Theresa, Gandhi and Rumi make me almost sorry I can't join their faiths. However, living in this world choices have to be made. I made mine for the following reasons.

An introduction in the history of Buddhism and Hinduism

It always annoys me when Hindu's show up on one of my online projects to announce - as if to make it harmless - that Buddhism is (merely) a form of Hinduism. I guess this thought goes a long way to explaining why so few Indians bother to learn from Tibetan Buddhist teachers living in their country, while Westerners travel long distances to be with those same teachers. 

Still Hindu's have a point of course: Buddha was born in what's now Nepal and lived and taught in the north of what's now India

On the other hand, Hinduism as we now know it didn't exist yet 500BC. Sure, some of the ingredients were in place, but many weren't. In fact, Hinduism as a unified religion is a rather modern invention that is still more a construction (of Western origin) than a social reality. 

That is: Hindu's believe in 1000s of Gods, but each individual Hindu is devoted to only one (up to a dozen) which are all seen as emanations of One Ultimate God (usually some version of Shiva or Vishnu). 

Since this is not an article about Hinduism, I can't only go into a few of the details. Let's just say that YES, Buddhism and Hinduism share a history in India, but that doesn't mean they're not different in significant respects. But first, let's look at some of the similarities:

What Hinduism and (forms of) Buddhism have in common

Buddhism and Hinduism share a common Indian heritage. However, that is not enough to declare Buddhism a form of Hinduism. Just like Christianity is not a form of Judaism

However, just like Christianity and Judaism, Buddhism and Hinduism do share common characteristics:

Differences between Hinduism and (forms of) Buddhism

The main difference between Buddhism and Hinduism is the same as the main difference between Christianity and Judaism: whereas Hinduism is a tribal religion, Buddhism is equally accessible to people from any background. 

Before Hindu's jump down my throat at the use of the word 'tribal', let me explain what I mean. 

A Hindu is defined primarily by their birth, which explains why they're so quick to include Buddha by the way. You're a Brahmin, a Kshatriya or a member of a scheduled caste by your birth. These days there are all kinds of political consequences to this fact. 

A Buddhist is anybody who has taken refuge in the Buddha, Dharma and Sangha. That is: you become a Buddhist by choice, comparable to how it works in Christianity and Islam. Like Islam and Christianity, Buddhism is a world religion: it is accessible for everybody and hopes to help every human being (actually every sentient being) towards its version of salvation. 

Secondarily a Hindu is defined by what spiritual practices they are involved in: devotion to Krishna, Shiva, Kali etc. The rituals they use to do that have a lot in common with the rituals Buddhists perform for Buddha, but the difference is large:

There is NO claim that Buddha is the primal source of all being. Buddha was a man who attained enlightenment, that's all. Sure, in Mahayana Buddhism 'Buddha Nature' is all pervading, but it's still a long cry from a creator God like Brahman, Shiva or Vishnu. 

The reasons for devotion are also different: a Buddhist seeks refuge of the Buddha in hopes of help on their path to their own release from the cycle of rebirth. Hindu's are devoted to their God out of Love and devotion. That doesn't mean that a Buddhist isn't devoted to Buddha, nor that Hindu's can't actively work on attaining Moksha: it's a difference in degree. 

For me, as a Western (Tibetan) Buddhist who has looked into Hinduism and Yoga in considerable detail the main issue isn't any of the above difference. I went for Buddhist meditation as opposed to yoga for one reason: ethics and compassion. While in the yoga tradition ethics seem to be an afterthought, in Buddhist practice and thinking about karma it is front line and center. In Mahayana Buddhism the primary motivation on the path is compassion: the wish to save ALL sentient beings from their suffering. I'm sure that sounds like Christianity, but that's another article...

Of course there is one other stickler point: the caste system. There is a reason Ambedkar stimulated whole groups of people to convert to Buddhism: to escape the Caste system. I don't know if it worked, since jati's are a built in aspect of Indian society (as well as of Nepal and Pakistan). Just giving your group a different label doesn't make the system go away. However, the caste system IS supported by Hinduism in a way that it isn't in Buddhism. 

More about the differences between Hinduism and Buddhism

Hinduism vs Buddhism on Wikipedia
Mostly written from a Theravada Buddhist perspective

Hinduism vs Buddhism
Goes into the historical background of how Buddhism and Hinduism developed

So, is Buddhism a form of Hinduism? (discuss)

Tell me what you think!

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Buddhism is a world religion, Hinduism is limited to people born in or from India
JeanBakula on 03/12/2012

Hello,
I'm just learning, but I thought Buddhism is separate from Hinduism, because the nature of Hinduism is really only applicable if you are from India. But I'm just beginning to read about the Eastern religions>

Jimmie on 01/06/2012

I never thought that Buddhism and Hinduism were related at all besides being Eastern religions. Quite interesting that Indian people believe that.

Of course it is, Buddha lived in India didn't he?
shakkarumpa on 01/29/2012

as a westener myself, I kinda understand indians who say this,because this categorisation business is ,as you mention, really a 19th century western activity. so to dismiss that , I think they are right in saying that is it really the same category.

Lucius Stone on 01/21/2012

I have read most of the Hindu scriptures and I can say with certainty that Buddhism IS a form of Hinduism. Everything the Buddha taught can be found in Hindu scriptures that existed thousands of years before him. Like it or not, Buddhism and Hinduism are two sides of the same coin.

Conclusion

Through writing this page I realized just why the difference between Hinduism and Buddhism seems so slight to Hindus: there seems to be very little that Buddhism has to offer Hindus that they don't have in 'other' Hindu teachers. 

For me, and most Western Buddhists I think, the situation is different: Buddhism offers a path that stresses meditation AND ethics, whereas Hinduism and Yoga seem to be about reaching salvation in ways that do NOT stress the importance of love for your fellow human being. This doesn't mean ethics and loving kindness aren't present in the religion,Hinduism, merely that those aspects don't get exported to the West as much. 

Also, of course, as a Westerner I can never REALLY become a Hindu. I might become a yoga teacher, or a Krishna devotee, but that doesn't make me a Hindu. 

I can however, like any human being, become a Buddhist. In fact AM a Buddhist. 

What it boils down to is this: I as well as every Buddhist world wide, have a right to identify with Buddhism as not Hinduism. I have a right to enjoy the benefits of an Indian spiritual tradition without there being the implicit confirmation of the caste system. I have a right to believe that Buddha was NOT in incarnation of Vishnu, as many Hindu's insist. 

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Ragtimelil on 12/12/2012

I'd have to disagree that Hindu's are only people born in India. AND that it isn't about love.
I didn't follow the Buddhist path myself because many branches do not recognize a supreme being. Buddhism as an offshoot of Hinduism exactly as Christianity was of Judaism.

vamanan on 10/27/2012

Quite a lot of anti-Hinduism vibrations here. Generally Westerners cannot stop throwing muck at Hinduism. Do hope Buddhism and the Buddha helps lessen that.

mohit on 08/22/2012

the true origin of hinduism may never be found and buddha was a hindu.he never declared giving up his religion.and there is no mention of caste in hindu scriptures.

siring on 07/07/2012

THAT WAS THE BIGGEST wrong IMPRESSION MADE BY HINDU LEADERS IN THE TIME OF BUDHA N AFTER BUDHA by pointing budhism is a part of hinduism, budha was reincarnation of god vishnu.Today's we see stil thre is cast system in india n manymore social evils are stil being existed in the country, look at the economic disparity at present, too many poor peaple who are even starving in day to day life but thre are also so many rich peaple who kept growing richer n richer on the other hand poor are growing poorer n poorer, full of corruption among leaders,billions of money are being wasted in the name of god,performance of rites,rituals,religious ceremonies whreas millions are stil homeless so fren think how can india rise to the world they dint go through the dhamma(the teaching of budha) where the reall truth was discovered by budha however some wise persons understood budha teaching namely Emperor ashoka,B.R ambedkar etc.Yes it is true that budha was born in a hindu family but the hindism could not really satisfy him, he met many hindu monks but none of them could satisfy him n then he himself started seeking the real truth n den he discovered such an wonderful techniq of attaining nibbana the highest goal , he himself liberated from all form of suffering by his own effort n finally he said there does not exist god, we ourself are the god n godesses no one can liberate us but we ourself onli by giving own effort but in hinduism thre exist more then thousand god n godesses.....there were countless budhas before gautama budha who also discovered the same truth n thre will be countless budhas in future who wil discover the same trut like gautama budha like him by giving their own effort as he said but budha never mentioned about his reincarnation of any god but he talked about past budhas n future budhas see how difference is budhism from hinduism.....i dont tease any religion stil if anything wrong written by me plz correct it.

spirituality on 04/12/2012

The issue isn't whether Hinduism is a religion today, but whether there is anything UNIFIED that could be called Hinduism that goes back 3000 years or so. The concept of Hinduism is really a Western invention, even if modern Indians have adopted it (and politicized it). I did study Indology at university, I'm not just saying this stuff.

You're right though that the idea of puja goes back a long way. It goes back long enough that it's present in Buddhism too, in fact. I suspect it's part of all Indian religions. The issue I try to present here is really: do Hindu's have a right to claim that all religions originating on the Indian subcontinent are really Hinduism... and my answer is: no, they don't have that right.

I have no quarrel with Hindu's who agree with that point, especially if they concede that the whole caste system is a problem (however hard to solve).

steep on 04/03/2012

I agree with you Buddhism is not part of Hinduism. Prince Siddharth was a hindu king, who denounced his kingdom (and hinduism) to essentially start buddhism. However your statement that Hinduism is only a modern invention is the biggest load of ignorant crap i have ever seen in my life!! By the logic the whole concept of organised religions is a modern construct. Hinduism is a way of life. The mantras and poojas we recite date right back to the vedas. Which contrary to british written HIstory, originated from India. Whatever the customs were have remained till now (some good, some bad)...They might not have known it was a religion at the time, however looking back at it through 2012 perspective, it was very much a religion.

You are obviously a passionate buddhist. But i think its ignorant and stupid of you to attempt extol the (wonderful) virtues of buddhism by spreading your obviousl ignorance and bringing down hinduism,.

Jimmie on 01/06/2012

I think your analogy of Christianity to Judaism is apt here. Very informative article. I lived in China for over 8 years, and I never saw the Buddhism that I read about in books. It was a mix of animism and Buddhist deities. But then again, when you look at "Christian" people, you rarely see what is described in books as the orthodox practice.



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