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Will Wizzley be the last man standing?

 
onetimeuser
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on 06/25/2015

Some of you may remember me from hubpages (or even here I guess!), at one stage I was getting about a million hits a month on hubpages, I think I got like 3% to 4% of their uniques when they were the 25th biggest site in the US, so 'revenue sharing' was a big thing to me. I never 'made it' at Squidoo. 

I don't have the time to sit and write stuff online these days because I'm running a business importing stuff to sell on ebay, but I still pay close attention to the 'user generated' content world, I had my own simple little wordpress based revenue sharing site once. 

They are dropping like flies aren't they? I can remember once writing an article listing a good two dozen revenue sharing sites, and I don't mean amateurish wordpress ones either... from the ones I can remember, all of these are gone:

  • Helium
  • Associated Content
  • Suite101
  • Bukisa (no longer sharing revenue)
  • Squidoo 
  • Zujava (announced recently).

Now I'm not going to share the ones which are still going, out of respect for the owners of Wizzley, but I can only think of three or four besides hubpages and wizzley, and they all look to be completely dead. 

Is there anybody else who feels strange to have played a part in a world which largely no longer exists? I never thought I'd see the day that a giant like Squidoo would fall. 

How is Wizzley going, can it buck the trend? And if Squidoo isn't too big to fail, then surely Hubpages isn't too big to fail? 

 

younghopes
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on 06/26/2015

I have not written on any of these sites you mentioned here but i write only for hubpages and that is my only savior as i can see money coming into my account. But with wizzley i have earned only a few cents and 1 amazon sale. I dont write here anymore, may be in the future but not now. I dont know about others as to how they feel about it. This site could have been wonderful in terms of earnings, but it is not


LindaSmith1
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on 06/26/2015

The handwriting was on the wall with Squidoo and Zujava. I jumped ship on both of them. 

I started my own websites.  It is nice to see consistent traffic, sometimes 400 visits per day. 

I love it when I wake up to 6, 10, 16 Amazon sales.  In fact, my Amazon sales for this month, from my own sites, beats total sales in past 4 years of all of the content farms together. 

The writing platforms like HP, just don't cut it anymore.  The traffic isn't there, the sales aren't there.  The way to go is to have your own sites.


Linda Smith
ologsinquito
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on 06/26/2015

I am earning here, but it seems as if revenue-share sites should be a part of your plan, and not your entire plan. The natural progression is to eventually have your own site or sites, with your own domain name.


Digby_Adams
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on 06/26/2015

My sales have started to pick up steam recently, after I spent some time on some of my older Wizzles and started writing new ones on a regular basis. I am quite optimistic about our collective future. 

Guest
on 06/26/2015

The only sites worth writing for IMHO are the, as you put it, "amateurish" Wordpress sites. None of the monolithic sites like HP can work any longer long term. Too Big, too much spam, and no way to police it consistently.

Wizzley's about as big as I would want to go for a site. I think they do a good job keeping spam out and I do think the site looks nice, it really does. Easy to deal with editor too. But the earning potential seems very weak though here.

I do pretty well with my own Blogger blogs and other sites, but I have made as much from those multi author WordPress blogs as any others the past 18 months, In fact, with out those WordPress sites, I'd be cleaning bathrooms somewhere probably.

 It is sad for sure, I really enjoyed Squidoo before the spammers went nuts and Google decided to penalize the site as a whole because of it. Most of the content was very good, some great, but the bad stuff I guess just weighs so much on the algorithm you can't win.

I don't know what the threshold percentage is that gets you penalized, nobody does, but it must be a small enough number that the mega content farms just can not hope to meet.

ologsinquito
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on 06/27/2015

I will soon be doing updates on some of my Wizzles for better keywords, and I think this will help a lot. Also, I've been checking affiliate links on one revenue-share site and it's surprising to find how many no longer work. So all of my links have to be checked as well.


Digby_Adams
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on 06/27/2015

ologsinquito I bet that helps a lot. Outdated affiliate links are the bane of my existence. It seems like I spend hours every day finding new products

LindaSmith1
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on 06/27/2015

I pay attention to my Amazon orders reports, but not only to see sales. I also check items clicked on but no sales.  Sometimes I find products on those reports that I don't even have on my sites.  I then add them if they fit content,  If not, I simply do a product review.  I have product review categories on my own sites.


Linda Smith
onetimeuser
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on 06/27/2015

 

VintageGuy: 06/26/2015 - 10:22 PM

 as you put it, "amateurish" Wordpress sites.

I think "amateurish" is a suitable enough word to use, when you consider that all that is required to set one up is a wordpress theme + a revenue sharing plugin, as opposed to years of programming experience and a computer science degree. I didn't mean it in a derogatory sense, but simply suggesting that they are ten a penny. I had one myself once, and anybody could set one up in a few days.

 

 

LindaSmith1
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on 06/27/2015

I spent weeks, hours and hours everyday with an amateurish WP  site.  I finally shut it down because it was so difficult.

But I have other Amateurish Websites  that are paying for themselves, as well as giving me a profit. 

 

The so called Big Sites, aren't giving me a penny.


Linda Smith
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on 06/27/2015

 

ryank: 06/27/2015 - 01:48 PM

 

VintageGuy: 06/26/2015 - 10:22 PM

 as you put it, "amateurish" Wordpress sites.

I think "amateurish" is a suitable enough word to use, when you consider that all that is required to set one up is a wordpress theme + a revenue sharing plugin, as opposed to years of programming experience and a computer science degree. I didn't mean it in a derogatory sense, but simply suggesting that they are ten a penny. I had one myself once, and anybody could set one up in a few days.

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You're right about 10 a penny, it does make it harder to establish a niche, especially when it is quite obvious you have to be very careful about ad-copy style articles, and not letting them rule the entire site.
Really though, what other options are left outside your own sites?
Bubblews is still live "for now"
There's even one site running a 48 hours only 100% ad revenue is yours promo, like a used car lot or something?  It's rough. But, if you have your own brand.... and followers, you can still be successful.
People just getting into this, man I feel for them. I learned the ropes from Squidoo and the connections I made there, I also started earning quickly enough to get excited about it as a viable income option. Seems like it would be very hard for the newbie to really get that part of it going, and having the patience for it.

 

 

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on 06/27/2015

 

ologsinquito: 06/27/2015 - 11:48 AM

I will soon be doing updates on some of my Wizzles for better keywords, and I think this will help a lot. Also, I've been checking affiliate links on one revenue-share site and it's surprising to find how many no longer work. So all of my links have to be checked as well.

One thing I do, is link to the search term page, so a list of items are shown and not just the one specific product. At least a related product your pitching will be there.

I have never done A/B testing or anything to see the conversion difference. But if they want the item enough to click, they will click on the the product on the list. At least you don't have to worry about a missing product.

This can be a major problem with third party sellers, they are always running out of stock, I became so frustrated by this I just switched to the search term landing page.

LindaSmith1
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on 06/27/2015

One thing I stopped doing is to use Amazon A stores.  Conversions are nothing!!

The one thing they do come in hand for is to have a list of products that matches your content, but haven't used yet or maybe they could be items sold, etc.  Maybe you find something that you want to write about,  do a review on later on.


Linda Smith
ologsinquito
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on 06/27/2015

Thanks for the tip VintageGuy. I can try that on one of my own sites and see what happens. You guys have a point about these third-party sellers. The products can be gone the next day.


sockii
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on 06/27/2015

I am quite happy right now running my "amateurish" revenue sharing wordpress site at the moment, thanks very much, and I know at least some of the authors contributing to it are seeing sales coming in because we've focused on some tighter niche topics and kept standards high from the start. After two years working on it, my site traffic is now approaching what I used to see on Squidoo in the good days, sales are getting to those levels, and ad revenue is covering costs and then some.

I'm very happy about that. I like Wizzley but it's not comparing to what I can accomplish on my own in this current online market. Neither is HubPages.

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lobobrandon
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on 06/27/2015

Hey Ryank, you're the guy who had a pug for a profile pic right? Or some other dog breed, I'm bad with names :D 

Nice to see you again after a really long time. Yes, HP seems to be going down too, but my traffic is still pretty steady over the past two years. Just a few hundreds a day, but I got just 10 hubs deleted the ones that didn't perform. Nonetheless, the traffic does remain consistent to some extent.

Wizzley looks great and is easy to work with, sadly the pages here don't rank too well. I get more each month from my own personal site which I've not worked on for over a year. I know it can get much better if I take the time to work on it. 


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onetimeuser
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on 06/28/2015

 

sockii: 06/27/2015 - 09:37 PM

I am quite happy right now running my "amateurish" revenue sharing wordpress site at the moment, thanks very much

Are you choosing to take personal offence here? 

Because I'd need to know you or your site in order to intend to offend you personally, and neither of those conditions have been met. 

onetimeuser
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on 06/28/2015

 

lobobrandon: 06/27/2015 - 10:58 PM

Hey Ryank, you're the guy who had a pug for a profile pic right? Or some other dog breed, I'm bad with names :D 

Nice to see you again after a really long time. Yes, HP seems to be going down too, but my traffic is still pretty steady over the past two years. Just a few hundreds a day, but I got just 10 hubs deleted the ones that didn't perform. Nonetheless, the traffic does remain consistent to some extent.

Wizzley looks great and is easy to work with, sadly the pages here don't rank too well. I get more each month from my own personal site which I've not worked on for over a year. I know it can get much better if I take the time to work on it. 

Yes I am that crazy pug man! I have three pugs now. 

I miss the pre-Panda days of Hubpages, 2009 to 2011. 

I'm sure I'm not the only one to reminisce about those halcyon days of revenue sharing, that was the point in the thread really, knowing that those days are long gone and what many achieved on these big revenue sharing sites will likely never be achieved again. Its amazing to think just how many huge sites there were, and how few there are left, "content farmers" are a dying breed. 

There were people making thousands of dollars per month on hubpages (and probably squidoo too). Personally my account at hubpages was seeing about 1 million hits per month. That just wouldn't be achievable now, I did go on to build up a network of affiliate sites on wordpress and they did OK on the whole, but the lack of social aspect made it so boring.

Then I quit affiliate marketing totally, I found some easy money churning out kindle books but that was boring too. Then I set up a business importing stuff from China and selling on ebay, a bit monotonous (especially the accounting), but I found that "community" feel again in selling groups etc. Really enjoying that. 

I check out the HP forum now and again and see people amazed when somebody boasts about making $50 payout per month, I can remember when you were second tier if you were making $500 per month, I was making about $3000 a month just writing 'stuff' on the internet..... what a dream! 

sockii
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on 06/28/2015

 

ryank: 06/28/2015 - 12:55 PM

 

sockii: 06/27/2015 - 09:37 PM

I am quite happy right now running my "amateurish" revenue sharing wordpress site at the moment, thanks very much

Are you choosing to take personal offence here? 

Because I'd need to know you or your site in order to intend to offend you personally, and neither of those conditions have been met. 

And I'd need to know why you felt it necessary to come here to basically boast about your success. What was the point of your original post, anyway, except to brag and basically try to posit gloom and doom for anyone still writing for any revenue share platforms?

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