It is not widely known that some early Christians believed in reincarnation, for they thought that prior to sharing in Jesus' resurrection the virtuous might be reborn. Sinners might reincarnate to have another chance. Some Jews of Jesus' time accepted the doctrine of reincarnation, as some accept it now. Jesus would have been aware that many Jews accepted reincarnation.Some thought him the reincarnated prophet Jeremiah. Others thought that John the Baptist was the prophet Elijah reborn. Jesus would have known of reincarnation, but is not recorded as having affirmed or denied it.
Some people think that John 9:1, when the disciples ask whether the man was born blind was due to his own or his parents' sins, implies that Jesus and the disciples were discussing reincarnation.They probably were discussing it. This was Jesus' opportunity to deny reincarnation, but he didn't. At no point in the gospels does Jesus affirm or deny reincarnation.
Some early Christian fathers, notably Clement of Alexandria, Origen and Synesius believed in reincarnation. Synesius thought that souls descend from heaven and must quickly return, else they wander long in the nether regions in a series of births ere they return to God. It is notable that these thinkers were Egyptians, but what significance we can draw from this fact is unclear. Alexandria was an intellectual powerhouse where many cultural influences met, including some from India, where belief in reincarnation is common.Greek thought, however, was independently familiar with reincarnation through the works of Plato and Pythagoras.
Reincarnation fell out of favour at the Second Council of Constantinople in 553, which condemned belief in the pre-existence of the soul, a foundation on which reincarnation rests.This condemnation was part of the condemnation of the Origenists, who believed that after a series of incarnations a person might become equal to Christ, a belief that no Christian could hold. Yet scholars now recognize that the condemnation of the Origenists does not apply to Origen himself,and it has been wrongly taught that the council condemned Origen.
Furthermore, many scholars are doubtful over whether Constantinople 2 was a valid ecumenical council of the church.It was called by the Emperor Justinian [who interfered in church matters] against the wishes of the pope, who though in Constantinople, refused to attend.There was nothing like a quorum of bishops, and bishops from Western Europe were hardly represented. Justinian dominated proceedings throughout. It is hard to think that this ecclesiastical charade has any claim to authority at all. As a Catholic I will not accept any council called against the will of the pope.
In recent years some Christian thinkers have revisited reincarnation, notably the Episcopalian theologian Geddes Macgregor. The Catholic Church has made no pronouncements on the issue and does not regard it as an issue of concern.
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Very observant, Derdriu. Fitting resurrection and reincarnation into one coherent system has not proved easy, but I think that a super-intelligent being would not close off any of his options.
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The Hungarian composer Bela Bartok believed that we go through life with baggage that ideally we sort before dying. He bemoaned his perception in the last month of his life that he had bags yet to unpack and sort. If that's an accurate perception, is what's undone important or not important, relevant or not relevant?
Some have interpreted post-resurrection Jesus not being recognized until he spoke as supportive of reincarnation. It's interesting to think that reincarnation keeps the voice or the way of speaking but not the physical appearance.
Thanks for this wise comment. God is loving and will not lose any soul if possible.My lost brother was a much wanted child, so my mother was traumatised by the loss, and I suffered much as well.Even after sixty four years the memory stays with me.
I reject fundamentalism,as you do, for fundamentalists have simplistic thoughts about profound and complex matters. They have the certainty of the mediocre.
Speaking of baptism, I have a story to tell.My mother's uncle, a Franciscan priest, was preparing a man for baptism, but two weeks before the ceremony the man dropped dead. My uncle asked the bishop whether he could treat the man as a case of baptism of desire and give the man a Catholic funeral. Permission was granted.However, two women complained to the bishop that an unbaptised man had been buried according to Catholic rites. The bishop responded by severely telling them off!
One thing I was taught is that there are three forms of Baptism, the normal method of water, the Baptism of Blood which is the martyrs, and Baptism of Desire. The third is wishing to be Baptized, although there is no opportunity. One of my teachers suggested we know not the will of God, and He may allow babies, and even others, to desire Baptism at the time of death. An awareness right before death might allow this. Indeed, even if the embryonic level of development has a soul, an awareness prior to brain development can be granted by God at the instance of the soul leaving the body.
One complexity is time itself. Does time exist for spirits? How long did souls wait for Jesus, perhaps in the spirit world it was an instance? Time in science requires matter to exist. Do spirits have a version of time, do they observe time passing, or is time meaningless to them other than sequencing events?
Sorry to hear of your brother. I learned late in life than one of my brothers would have been a twin, but the other died before birth. So, we knew nothing of the baby, not even the gender. In cases such as this prayer is still valid. I recall in religion class having the question brought up about praying for the dead. The reply of the teacher was God knows all that will happen, so He has the ability to apply prayers not yet offered, knowing fully that they will be.
You have brought up much, and fundamentalists may take issue with some ideas. I am a Catholic like you, so I am not a fundamentalist.