Missing Category

I'm nor happy with having to file my latest offering, Monastery to Mother's Ruin, under Food and Recipes, sub-menu Beer and Wine, as the gin spirit has nothing to do with beer or wine.  I would have thought we could have a section on Drinks as a stand alone topic and then split this up into wines, fortified wines, beers, Real Ales, wines (sub-sections European, New World and Other).  Any chance of that happening? 

Maritravel: 06/20/2014 - 01:34 PM

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... wines, fortified wines, beers, Real Ales, wines (sub-sections European, New World and Other). 

• Wines and Champagnes (red, white and rose or New World, European and Other)
• Fortified Wines to include Port and Sherry
• Spirits (Whisky, Cognac, Gin, Vodka)
• Cocktails
• Beers
• Ales (Real Ales, Pale, Stout and Bitter)
• Ciders
• Homebrewing?

Any more I missed?

I suppose liqueurs should go into a separate menu.  The list there is endless and a lot of fun to be had searching out weird ones when on holiday!   Referred to in Oz as 'stickies' they can be well over-strength and need to be approached with care!  Did you include Home Made wines?  I can't remember and I'm off the page now, or it's greyed out, so can't get back until I hit submit.  Non-alcoholic wines?  Are there Vegetarian wines?  I know there are Organic wines.

Maritravel: 06/20/2014 - 01:51 PM

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I suppose liqueurs should go into a separate menu.  The list there is endless and a lot of fun to be had searching out weird ones when on holiday!   Referred to in Oz as 'stickies' they can be well over-strength and need to be approached with care! 

Sickly sweet, most of 'em...Baileys and Grand Marnier are the exception to my personal 'no liqueur' rule, although apparently Pimm's is also considered a liqueur in some circles. Personally, it tastes more like a spirit although officially it is a fruit cup.

Did you include Home Made wines?

Yes, under Homebrewing (I thought beer or wine)

Non-alcoholic wines?

Good call! And non-alcoholic beers and ciders too (my pregnant colleague tells me these exist, but as I drink neither beer nor cider I couldn't say.) The low Alcohol or 'lite' market is getting quite a name over here too. Not my bag either, I like something that does what it says on the bottle, box, bag or cask. 12% wine, 35-40% spirits.

  Are there Vegetarian wines?  I know there are Organic wines.

There are vegetarian wines, and vegan wines too. Surprisingly enough, a number of big names among them (Jacob's Creek and Hardy's for starters.)

I should also suggest Rum under the Spirits tag, as it is generally considered such.

By the way, that Gordon's elderflower Mother's Ruin is a thing to behold. Chill it to icing level, and the tonic too, and it just Hits. That. Spot. on a hot summer's evening.

I've set up a new subcat under Food & Recipes - Drinks

Under 'Drinks' I've set up the following sub/subcats:

Fortified Wine

Real Ale

Cocktails

Will that work, or do you need other sub/subcats under 'Drinks'?

Remember, our cats are only general pathways - we don't need to get too specific. The article title is the most important element for the search engines.

Thanks, Chefkeem, going in the right direction, but I think the sub categories should be Wine (easy enough to fit fortified wine under this sub but by itself it excludes normal wines), spirits and Beers and Ales.  These are the 3 most important alcoholic categories.  Cocktails can fit under spirits.

Many thanks.  I note what you say about not being too precious about the category for the article but as we are asked to stipulate a category for the piece, I think then it should be near the mark.

Thanks again, and how quick you were to pick this up!

Hi Chefkeem,

I've just gone back and checked and offer my apologies.  I hadn't looked properly to see what was on offer before jumping in (bad habit of mine). 

Yes, you do have wine up there, so fortified wine can be a sub under that, but I do not think that Beer and Wine go together.  Could you make one category for Beer (which can include all the subs in that field) and then Wine as a separate category.  In fact to keep it from running away with itself.  Fortified wine as a sub of this can easily cover the 3 main ones, sherry, port and Madeira and within these 3 are various different types which do not need sub-sub. cats. - otherwise it becomes unwieldy.

But we still do not have a category for spirits which covers rum, whiskey, gin, vodka, bourbon, even poteen and I think this one is important because it also covers cocktails which are usually spirit based.

I don't want to shuffle around existing cats and subcats, because I don't want to mess up the categorization of existing articles.

But I've added 'Spirits' as a sub/subcat under 'Drinks'. 

I think that's all I can do for now.

Thanks, Chefkeem, that is more than enough.  Having spirits enables a great deal to be added, and as I said earlier, fortified wines can be filed under generic wines and cocktails can go under spirits  Done deal.  Thanks for your help.