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AJ
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on 05/26/2011
When I first joined Squidoo, I knew nothing about keyword research but I managed to get lucky with some of my earlier lenses and they continue to rank high. I was writing about topics that people were searching for and by accident I selected some great keywords that had little competition.
However, I have always thought that with some of my pages on Squidoo, I should re-do them - but found I could never get the motivation to do it. Particularly as some of these pages are actually ranking high enough to get Tier Payments, eventhough I think I could do better with them if I was publishing them for the first time now.
But with Wizzley, I am thinking of taking some of those topics, doing new keyword research and re-doing them on here, focussing on different keywords.
OK so Squidoo has a Google Page Rank of 7 and pages on Squidoo benefit from that. Wizzley will take awhile to build a good page rank, but any pages on here that are properly optimized for the search engines, should grow in authority as the site grows providing they have original content and good keywords.
I guess I run the risk of "stealing" traffic from my Squidoo pages, if I compete with them on here, but I am willing to bet that what will happen is that it will be new traffic that comes to my Wizzley pages and I will get the traffic that I miss out on, that is looking for the keywords I dont have on my Squidoo pages.
So I am going to experiment and see what happens. I will try with a couple of pages that have similar keywords and a couple that I will try to make completely different.
Can anyone see any reason why this is a bad idea? Or better still give me reasons why it WILL work  |
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makingamark
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on 05/26/2011
I've been thinking about how best to complement and not compete with Squidoo pages which rank well
What I'm going to do is:
- take specific topics within the long list of topics covered by my very long "resources for artists" lenses and write a page just on that topic
- it will always be different
- it will always link to and highlight the breadth of resources available on Squidoo (plus I then get another backlink for my Squidoo lens)
- I can insert a link in my Squidoo lens to the specific of the Wizzley page
In broad terms it's a bit like taking a module and expanding it and making it different.
It's not too distance from the methology I applied with blog posts and Squidoo. In fact more and more I'm thinking of Wizzley pages as being rather like a well structured well informed and helpful blog post! I've been writing those non-stop for the last five+ years!
Should be fun - the ease and speed of Wizzley is currently distracting me from getting ready to go to France!
Katherine Tyrrell is makingamark. My art blog Making A Mark is rated #3 in top 25 art blogs in the UK. |
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lakeerieartists
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on 05/26/2011
Ahhh, AJ, your experiments are always great to learn from. I would treat the Wizzley article as a piece on its own with a backlink to Squidoo. That way you can both get fresh traffic to the new page, and also send both "link juice" and traffic to Squidoo.
The PR is not always the be all and end all for the value of your backlink. You may find that the backlinks from Wizzley are worth far more than you think that they will be.
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AJ
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on 05/26/2011
Paula - I have just done a Wizz on Beef Stroganoff, but I think it is too similar to justify linking to the Squidoo lens about the same recipe - however, what I will do is link the Wizz to the Lensography that features other "Quick Easy Recipes".
I agree that the backlinks from Wizzley will be valuable (after all as Anne told us, the first pages got indexed very quickly by Google), it is just that I think it may take a bit longer for our Wizzes to gain Google authority compared to Squidoo lenses - but I am hoping I am wrong 
Kathryn - great to see you already have a game plan and thank you for sharing it. |
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lakeerieartists
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on 05/26/2011
Certainly can't hurt. :) I think I need to adopt one of the cool smileys as my personal representative. Hold on. . . .
Another option is writing a related article to the first one, like vegetarian beef stroganoff, then connecting them.
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chefkeem
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on 05/26/2011
AJ - I can totally identify with your topic. I, too, have many early lenses with lousy optimization. And I've never found the time to improve them.
Your idea of creating properly optimized Wizzley pages about these "clunkers" is...simply....
Brrrrilliant. 
Achim "Chef Keem" Thiemermann is the co-founder of a pretty cool new platform called...um...er...oh, yeah - Wizzley.com. |
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lakeerieartists
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on 05/26/2011
AJ is often brilliant. :)
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mandeesears
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on 05/26/2011
lakeerieartists: 26. May 2011, 15:50
AJ is often brilliant. :)
Ditto! (Paula too!) lol
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nightowl
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on 05/26/2011
lakeerieartists: 26. May 2011, 15:50
AJ is often brilliant. :)
 What she said.
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AJ
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on 05/27/2011
Oh I am  at all your kind words....
Ah Paula - there's no searches for vegetarian beef stroganoff and I can kind of see why  but I did find another possibly "killer keyword" so thank you for the suggestion and stand by for a page.... |
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bev-owens
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on 05/27/2011
It could be "vegetarian beef stroganoff" if the beef were substituted with re-fried beans or tofu or some such ingrediants that sound well...uhm...yucky. But alas if there are no searches then it would be a clunker for sure...or maybe just ahead of its time.
Seriously, AJ, again a very brilliant idea! You are often successful in turning the switch on in my cobweb covered lamp located in my brain.... |
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lakeerieartists
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on 05/27/2011
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Groovyfinds
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on 05/28/2011
I used to own 4 retail sites. I intentially didn't link them together & pitted them against each other in search engines. The end result was haveing most of the results for that keyword on page one point back to something I owned.
Nothing wrong with competing against yourself!
Cake or Death
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Kate-Phizackerley
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on 05/28/2011
Actually I suspect that Google these days gives credit to pages which link to authority pages so if you have good material on Squidoo or Hubpages or anywhere else, the linking to it may help the new material as well. The secret seems to be links to a wide variety of domains and sites, preferably all ones liked by Google.
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Michey
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on 05/28/2011
Kate-Phizackerley: 29. May 2011, 05:21
Actually I suspect that Google these days gives credit to pages which link to authority pages so if you have good material on Squidoo or Hubpages or anywhere else, the linking to it may help the new material as well. The secret seems to be links to a wide variety of domains and sites, preferably all ones liked by Google.
Hello Kate, for Google the authority links are important (.edu, .gov and so on) but in Google Caffein they change the rule for kaywords... we can have 20 keywords, this don't hurt, but Google indexes only the first 3 keywords, so we still maintain the 20 leywords , but we have to be carefull the first 3 to be important keys...
Regards
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chefkeem
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on 05/28/2011
I agree with Kate.
Michey - I believe Kate talked about outbound links to Squidoo and Hubs, not keywords.
Achim "Chef Keem" Thiemermann is the co-founder of a pretty cool new platform called...um...er...oh, yeah - Wizzley.com. |
