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Why Did The British Celebrate Thatcher's Death?

It might be difficult for some to imagine why Margaret Thatcher's death will be celebrated in many towns and cities across the UK. Here is an explanation, not a justification.

The news of Margaret Thatcher's death has spread through the land of Twitter like some uncontrollable, raging bush fire. And whilst there are the usual condolences and expressions of sympathy contained within the 140 characters, which of course one would expect when a former prime minister dies, there are also tweets which, quite frankly, could only be described as celebratory. It would be perfectly reasonable for individuals who live outside of the UK, and for some who live within the UK, to feel shocked and saddened by such behaviour. Moreover, perhaps we have to ask ourselves, what is it, was it, about Thatcher and her policies that have evoked such a strong reaction?

Margaret Thatcher: 1925 - 2013.

Margaret Thatcher. AKA The Iron lady — Source

Margaret Thatcher, the Popularity Stakes and Social Class.

More than three decades after her election, the country remains divided when it comes to Thatcher's achievements in office. Half of the country believe that she was the best thing since sliced bread, whilst the remainder of the country, to put it mildly, believe that this is codswallop. 

Many commentators argue that one's view of the late Mrs.Thatcher will be determined by your social class, and whilst it is reasonable to assume that your position in society will invariably influence your view of it, it is not entirely reasonable to suggest that the class to which you belong is responsible for the strong feelings of anger and resentment, aimed at one individual who is ideologically the opposite of yourself. After all, would the death of Micheal Heseltine, John Major or Ken Clarke evoke such a powerful reaction from the masses?

Perhaps then, we need to explore Thatcher's policies and how they affected particular sections of society, in order to determine why the country remains so divided when it comes to the question of Thatcher's leadership.

The Impact of Thatcherism.

There are many communities within England, Wales and Scotland which would never, ever, elect a Conservative MP. Is this because of a deeply entrenched ideology? Well, possibly, but more likely due to a collective memory of the Thatcher years and what it means to be working class; as an immigrant, single mother, trade unionist, unemployed individual or gay man and woman, under a Conservative government.

Thankfully [some] in the Conservative Party have drastically altered their stance when it comes gay marriage and equality, but sadly not all. 

If we are to examine the effects of Thatcher's policies on communities, we cannot move forward without mentioning the Miners' strike. The author has previously written about the topic in Class Conflict; Ideology or Social Experiment, so will only briefly touch on the issue here. 

During the strike, the miners and their families suffered immeasurably; they had to rely on soup kitchens and the goodwill of others in order to feed their families. Many of their civil rights were withdrawn and a simple Google search will reveal a wealth of evidence supporting the claims that they were brutalized by the police and the state. 

Unfortunately,  when strike action ended the suffering did not. Almost three decades later many of those communities are reminded daily of Thatcher and her policies. They have yet to recover:

"According to the DETR, three-quarters of the former coalfield communities were among the 20% of the most deprived regions in England, and the data collected from South Wales was similarly shocking. High unemployment, long term illness, poor educational attainments and the inevitable levels of crime, substance misuse and alcoholism which follow." ( HollieT. Class Conflict; Ideology or Social Experiment?) 

Thatcher on Immigration and Race.

Files released to the National Archives in 2009, provide some insight into Margaret Thatcher's views on immigration and race. According to the documents, Thatcher was concerned about the number of Asians coming to Britain, and Thatcher had voiced her concerns publicly. 

One of her most divisive statements however, was that immigrants should not be given council houses over "white" people. As a multi-cultural society, and during a period where the National Front were gaining some support, this statement was believed to, not only incense non-white British citizens, but also instill fear within those communities.

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Make of that statement what you will,  but bear in mind that Thatcher held similar views when it came to the plight of refugees. Whilst Thatcher was willing to accept white Rhodesians, Poles and Hungarians who had fled their native land during periods of social unrest and political change, claiming that " they could be more easily assimilated into British Society", she adopted a completely different position when it came to the Vietnamese. 

The desperation of hundreds of thousands of Vietnamese boat people, who were fleeing persecution from the communist regime, had prompted Lord Carrington to suggest that Britain take 10,000 refugees. The prime minister, on the other hand, had declared that there were enough people coming to Britain and discussed the matter within the context of immigration.

Mrs Thatcher was reminded by Lord Carrington that the plight of refugees was quite different to that of the economic migrant, and that amongst the population there was general support for taking more Vietnamese refugees;  he had received letters from the public requesting that he do so. To which Mrs Thatcher replied "“ All those who wrote letters in this sense should be invited to accept one into their homes."

Within two years of Thatcher coming to power, there were no fewer than four riots;  in all four cases, the catalyst for the riots was linked to racial tension and urban deprivation.

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Thatcher On The Family.

In 1987 Thatcher famously made her society speech:

"There is no such thing as society; there are individual men and women, and there are families."  

Mrs. Thatcher was quite vocal when it came to the relationship between the individual and society, and was heavily influenced by American right leaning thinkers who advocated that the welfare state gave birth to, and nurtured, an underclass of individuals who were, frankly, irresponsible. 

The prime minister voiced her opinions about single parenthood and claimed, on more than one occasion, that many single women with children had become so in order to claim benefits and a council flat. 

In fact, Thatcher considered single parents to be a social and economic burden. Her values regarding the family were Victorian, some would say draconian, and she believed that only the conventional family should be recognized; not unmarried couples, however stable, and certainly not same sex couples. 

During a speech in Kentucky in 1998, long after her resignation as PM, Thatcher claimed that: 

"It is far better to put these children [of single parents] in the hands of a very good religious organisation, and the mother as well, so that they will be brought up with family values."  Thatcher also maintained that welfare provision to single mothers had exacerbated the problem, which indeed was the view she held whilst in office.

According to Jonathan Shaw, Senior Research Economist at the IFS, the number of children living in poverty rose from 1.8 million when Thatcher was elected, to 3.6 million by the time of her resignation.

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Thatcher on The Unions and Workers Rights.

Mrs. T vehemently opposed any policy or practice that she perceived to be remotely socialistic. In 1976, during a television interview for Thames TV, Mrs Thatcher declared that "...and socialist governments do traditionally make a financial mess. They [socialists] always run out of other people's money. It's quite characteristic of them."

Thatcher was committed to the free market, deregulation (particularly where the financial sector was concerned) and the privatization of state-owned businesses. Naturally, such moves would result in conflict between the trade unions and her government. In attempts to counter opposition from the unions, Thatcher needed to diminish their power and membership. She succeeded. 

The prime minister's reforms during the early 1980's ensured that the unions' power to negotiate wages and working conditions were greatly reduced. Consequently, the balance of power shifted to employers and other reforms; including the length of time an individual had to work for an employer before taking them to an industrial tribunal for unfair practice, was extended. 

Union membership fell by more than 3.5 million during her time in office.

Thatcher has been accused by left-wing commentators of crushing the unions by politicizing the police and using the state and judiciary for ideological ends. 

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The Nasty Party and Thatcher's Legacy.

Interestingly, the term nasty party was not coined by the left. It was Teresa May, a Conservative politician,  who in 2002 declared that  "There's a lot we need to do in this party of ours. Our base is too narrow and so, occasionally, are our sympathies. You know what some people call us -- the Nasty Party."

It is widely believed that May was referring to the Conservative anti-stance;  anti-gay, anti-immigrant, anti-poor but pro-business. 

On reflection it could be argued that Thatcher's government were only about opposition; opposition to any group in society who were not a mirror image of themselves; white, mostly male, middle class and Christian. 

Perhaps that's why it is so difficult for individuals who do not belong to a minority group or particular class, to understand the vitriol which is directed towards Thatcher. To live in a society where the ruling elite are anti-you, can be very frightening indeed. But fear aside, to exist in a society where you are blamed for being you; financially punished and socially frowned upon, can have a very damaging and lasting effect.

Not surprisingly, the various groups in society who were directly and adversely affected by Thatcher's policies will often talk of how she hated the working classes, gays, immigrants; them. To those people her governance and her death are personal. Which perhaps goes some way to explain, but not justify, the hatred that they feel for her. Perhaps this is another of her legacies, she raised an anti-generation.

Social cohesion, the glue which binds us together, comes with the understanding of, and tolerance for, people who are different from ourselves. Understanding nurtures unity, anti rhetoric does not.

 

Updated April 10, 2017

Comments

frankbeswickApr 4, 2014

One of the unremarked social injustices of Thatcher's regime was the fact that while she ] she boosted pay for armed forces and police [often deserved] she shrank it for other public sector workers. The explanation. The police and the armed forces were to be her defence against the people. Public money, under her regime, was being unfairly distributed to suit the interests of the ruling party and class. How far does a politician have to go before you judge that they were evil?

NateB11Apr 4, 2014

This article reminded me why I'm glad it's not the 80s anymore. That's when we had Reagan and Bush over here and it was okay to be a backward bigot. I was about as happy about Reagan's death as many in the UK were happy about Thatcher's death.

frankbeswickSep 8, 2013

The coalition has not followed her interest rates policy, which was to raise interest rates to fifteen per cent and keep them there for years. I had my first mortgage just before she was elected and raised rates. I had years of the ordeal of trying to pay a usurious rate, while rich Tories feasted on the profits of their investments and argued that high rates were a good thing.

HollieTSep 8, 2013

Hi jptanabe,

Thank you! Living under the Thatcher regime was very unpleasant indeed for many of us. Her policies ruined lives and caused a great deal of suffering.

Hi Frank,

I was at school when Thatcher first came to power- I also remember how underfunded our school was, five of us would share a text book etc. I also had my first mortgage under Thatcher, the interest rates crippled me, as did the poll tax. As young as I was, I remember how our rights as workers diminished in just a few short years. She made life hell for ordinary people.

Hi John,

Yes, there was a definite campaign to silence those who had no interest in paying tribute to that woman. I fear that there will never be a thorough and balanced appraisal of her leadership whilst this govt. continue with her dreadful neo-con policies. In fact, I'd go as far as to say that history is repeating itself, with the current coalition going further than even she would fear to tread. It's as if she's still in power, sadly.

JohnTannahillSep 7, 2013

An email telling me jptanabe had posted a comment prompted me to re-read this article. At the time you wrote this, there was a definite campaign to "not speak ill of the dead." Those voices criticising her were being silenced and those praising her were being amplified. It was as if Thatcher's legacy was being carved out of stone and fixed forever at that moment. Now, months down the line, you would hope that a thorough and balanced critical appraisal might be in the pipeline. I hope so. We can't let the Tories have the final say in this story.

frankbeswickSep 7, 2013

As a Briton who is basically civilised and of good will, who isold enough to have lived through the Thatcher years [I am 63] I did not celebrate her death, but I did not mourn. She was an uncaring person with a narrow doctrinaire view of economics, who served the interest of the capitalists at the expense of the interests of the people. Her economic policy was to impose crippling mortgage rates and use unemployment to control inflation, both of which caused great pain, and she cared not a jot. For her, workers counted as mere chaff. To use her words of workers, "their function is to serve.." Wealthy people grew rich under her governance, while ordinary people were ground under and impoverished. Directors enjoyed high wage rises, while workers were told to take one per cent or so and be grateful. Margaret Thatcher was social injustice embodied.

I will not celebrate her death. The death of a saint is not a cause of sorrow, for the saints are heaven bound. Thatcher was no saint. I pass no comment on her final destiny.

jptanabeSep 7, 2013

Great article explaining how Margaret Thatcher managed to be so unpopular. I have memories of hating her as Education Secretary while a student in Scotland. I was living in the US by the time she became Prime Minister so didn't experience her policies directly then.

HollieTApr 10, 2013

Hi Mira,

Thank you. I haven't watched David Cameron to be honest. This country is rather split when it comes to Mrs T and her legacy- after writing this page I've tried to avoid the tributes. :)

MiraApr 10, 2013

I enjoyed this. I wish I'd seen the movie with Meryl Streep as well :). Also, I just heard part of David Cameron's speech in Parliament. It was rather interesting.

HollieTApr 9, 2013

Hi Sheilamarie,

I think that's where the division comes in, if you belonged to the group who Thatcher was pro, you were unlikely to be adversely affected by her policies. She was quite skilled when it came to pitting neighbour on neighbour, black on white, employed on unemployed. A trend we're seeing again in this country. But yes, I do agree that becoming anti another human being is not only undesirable, but unfathomable.

GuestApr 9, 2013

Meryl Streep did a remarkable job in her role as the Iron Lady. She put a more human face on her.
I weep for the way politics distorts people. It's hard to fathom how a person can become "anti" other people.

HollieTApr 9, 2013

John,

That's absolutely fair enough and perfectly understandable.

TheWritersDog,

Thank you very much. Much stronger words and sentiments are being used over here. :)

HollieTApr 9, 2013

Hi Frank,

There was definitely a climate of fear under the Thatcher regime. I remember seeing the miners clashing with the riots on tv when I was a girl, and the way they were treated by the police. And the blacklisting of construction workers who had previously took strike action is now very much in the headlines.

Dissent wasn't a very safe option under Mrs. Thatcher that's for sure.

HollieTApr 9, 2013

Hi Wibblywobbly,

It is I who should apologise. I've just re read my comments and I sounded really short. I honestly didn't mean to. Unfortunately after 10pm my brain is not fully engaged and my fingers seem to have a mind of their own. :)

HollieTApr 9, 2013

Thanks Georgette, really appreciate that. :)

Hi Sheri,

Thank you very much. I hoped to lay out some of the information for readers who were not that familiar with Mrs. T and her policies in the most objective way I could. I don't know about Israel , but in the UK we're a bit sick of *opinion pieces* in our media and would like a few more facts.

HollieTApr 9, 2013

Thank you, Paw Paw. :)

Thank you, Rupert. I do remember lots of slippers being thrown at the TV in our house every time someone said something nice about Mrs Thatcher. And I expect a good few slippers were thrown at the TV last night during the tributes to her.

HollieTApr 9, 2013

Hi Ologsinquito,

Thank you very much, the Thatcher years are etched on my memory so writing this was pretty straightforward, just had to do a little fact checking.

HollieTApr 9, 2013

Brenda,

I agree to some extent that there may be a dependency culture amongst some. But what Thatcher did was to remove a quite a bit of financial support without offering these women any support into employment or education. There was no help with childcare for example, so many women were having to leave their children child minders who were uncertified and dubious to say the least, just because they were cheap. Either way, single parents remained trapped in poverty when working or otherwise. The system was structured so that the only way a single mother could improve her lot, was to get married. The only form of social mobility for single mothers.

Thanks for commenting, Brenda. :)

HollieTApr 9, 2013

Paul, thank you very much indeed. :) I'm glad you enjoyed it.

JohnTannahillApr 9, 2013

As it seems to be National Say Something Nice About Maggie Day, I will remain silent.

frankbeswickApr 9, 2013

As an Englishman who lived under her regime I noted that while there were some good reforms, she ruled in the interest of capitalists, and as for working people "their function is to serve" [her words]] She saw workers as mere chattels. She despised public sector workers. I also recall her abolition of wage councils, which saw some poorer workers celebrate Christmas with a drastic wage cut in 1986.

Furthermore, she was no friend of liberty of anyone who disagreed with her. During the mid 1980s there was a climate of fear in Britain after she used Special Branch, the anti-terrorist police, to raid BBC Glasgow. During that period I had a letter published criticizing one of her ministers only for a frightened member of the public to tell me that if I did this special branch might get to know my name. This was the first time that English people were afraid to speak in public for fear of the security police. This climate of fear suddenly stopepd and I think that Elizabeth put her foot down on the matter.

I neither mourn nor celebrate her death

WibleyWobblyApr 9, 2013

I'm Sorry Hollie. It was an interesting and enlightening article, especially for someone like me who wasn't there and doesn't know. I was merely trying to understand myself why people would celebrate anyone's death, I wasn't implying that you specifically were. I'm just trying to understand.

Sheri_OzApr 9, 2013

This is a wonderful article. I'm so glad you were able to present the issues in this way so that I could really understand them. You opened my eyes to something I didn't really know much about and leave me to come to my own conclusions.

georgettejohnApr 9, 2013

Excellent article Hollie, well deserved EC!

RupertTaylorApr 9, 2013

Jo expresses my feelings, but with perhaps a little more vinegar than I would have allowed myself. Although born and raised in England I came to Canada pre-Thatcher at the age of 25, I was saddened to hear my prime minister, Stephen Harper, a closet libertarian, describe Margaret Thatcher as a "giant among leaders." Yech.

Once again Hollie, given your sentiments, you did a masterful job.

pawpawApr 9, 2013

Very well done. She deserves every tribute. I don't think much of the world realized how important she was.

ologsinquitoApr 9, 2013

Hi Hollie,

This is an excellent article that looks as if you've spent many days on it. No matter how you feel about Margaret Thatcher's politics, it is always sad when someone passes.

BrendaReevesApr 8, 2013

I'm a liberal American, and I can tell you that she is right by what is said on these points. Welfare has kept the African-American down, and our government as well as educated African-Americans recognized that a long time ago. The government created this giant monster that is sucking the life out of this country, but they don't know what to do about it.

It is true that many young girls from all American ethnic backgrounds are getting pregnant to claim benefits and housing. I know some of them. Thank God they aren't in my family though.

With that said, I empathize with you. I come from a working class American family which hails from England. My grandfather was a coal miner.

PaulApr 8, 2013

Congratulations on the EC, Hollie! Amazing article!

HollieTApr 8, 2013

Thanks, Jo. I wont lie, I found this incredibly difficult. But just tried to present *some* of the facts, minus my opinion, to the people who weren't there.

HollieTApr 8, 2013

WibblyWobbly, this is not a celebration of Thatcher or her death. It is merely, and unequivocally an analysis of her period in office, from someone who *survived* it. As you say, you weren't there, clearly you cannot empathise with all the people that she hurt.

HollieTApr 8, 2013

Thank you, Katie.

JoHarringtonApr 8, 2013

WibleyWobbly - We definitely celebrated then, only to stare in disbelief, as the Tories got in for another term. John Major's election floored us. Age doesn't confer innocence. As long as she had her faculties, she was still peddling the same old views. We are still living with Thatcherism now.

WibleyWobblyApr 8, 2013

I think if you are going to celebrate her demise, when she went out of power would have been a good time. Not the day a frail old lady died 20 years out of power. I can't sympathise as I wasn't there but I just cant imagine ever celebrating anyone's death.

JoHarringtonApr 8, 2013

That was so restrained! I was considering writing something like this myself, but I'd have just found the largest font in Wizzley's arsenal, then littered the page with obscenities in capital letters.

I grew up in a mining community. I hated her. I remember Hillsborough, the Battle of the Beanfield, the poll tax riots, the Criminal Justice Bill, Clause 28 and all the rest. There won't be a large enough dance-floor on her grave for all those who want to tramp the dirt down.

Very well written, Hollie, and thank you for explaining it to everyone who wasn't there.

katiem2Apr 8, 2013

I lovely tribute to an amazing woman, she will be fondly remembered and missed. She accomplished so much, RIP Margaret Thatcher! :)K

HollieTApr 8, 2013

Thank you, Rupert, your comment means a lot. To be honest, I'd spoken to fellow writers on another site, and told them that I was *attempting* to write a balanced piece about Thatcher (exact words) and how very difficult I was finding it.

I'm from the North West, not a mining community, but a community which also suffered immensely during her governance. My father was also of Irish decent, and during her term in office I had been sneered at my friends parents who would not allow me into their home, because they believed that my father was a member of the IRA- he'd never even been to Ireland.

I remember well this countries fight against apartheid in South Africa, and her complete and utter apathy to the plight of black South Africans. I also remember her friendship with Pinochet despite the atrocities which he had committed, the relationship, it appears, was politically expedient.

And yes, she crushed the unions, and the miners!

I can think of many adjectives to describe Margaret Thatcher, but unfortunately humanitarian would not be one of them. :)

RupertTaylorApr 8, 2013

Thanks for this Hollie. I could not have written a balanced piece about Margaret Thatcher. She was a very divisive character and her policies caused enormous turmoil and hardship for many.

She was a disciple of the Milton Friedman school of economics that has been largely blamed for the financial crisis of 2007 and is now discredited. At the time she came to power Britain did need to be shaken out of its economic torpor but I think she went too far in curbing the power of the trade unions.

As a supporter of South Africa's apartheid policies her carefully disguised racism was apparent. If she had her way Nelson Mandela would still be in prison.

In supporting Chile's Augusto Pinochet she gave her stamp of approval to one of the worst ogres of South America's dark night of military governments and human rights atrocities.

Her role in ordering the sinking of the Admiral Belgrano and the death of more than 300 Argentine sailors during the Falklands War is another black chapter in her story.
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