Most people come to belief or disbelief in God through their upbringing, but this is only part of the story. Belief can be compared with a plant. It begins with a seed and then grows or shrivels, according to how it is tended. Any kind of belief needs feeding. A certain sort of lifestyle feeds belief and makes it grow, whereas another makes it shrink or be relegated to the back or the fringe of the mind. I think that a major component of my own belief was my sternly and devoutly Catholic upbringing, but without my lifelong mass attendance and my habit of daily prayer, sometimes guiltily missed, along with my studying of religions, I would not have believed so strongly as I do.
The young non-believer, who told me that I had been indoctrinated by my parents, before quickly diverting his attention to other, less informed and less assertive members of the gathering, knew not that at twelve I had rejected my parents' creationism to such an extent that I convinced them that evolution was correct. So much for their supposed indoctrination and its numbing effects on the mind. They surely never prevented me from thinking, and they encouraged wide reading.He also overlooked the fact that throughout my life I have been cultivating religious learning.
We must realize that belief in God has some complexities. We distinguish between the God of the philosophers and the God of the prophets. They are not necessarily distinct, but they represent God as known in different ways. The God of the philosophers is God as understood [I will not say known] through philosophical reasoning, but the God of the prophets is known through the disclosure of himself to humans, great and small, through revelation and prayer, through religious experience. Just as a rectangle has length and breadth, thus God is apprehended [insofar as transcendent mystery can ever be apprehended] in these complementary ways.
This leads us to the realization that belief in God is composed of different kinds of knowledge. Take an example, the ways in which I know my wife. She is Maureen by name. She is five feet five inches tall, slim, with brown hair and blue eyes. This is objective knowing, but I also know her as a person and have grown in this kind of knowledge over the thirty four years that we have been married. Without the objective knowing I could not know her personhood. The two are complementary. Thus with God. We can have some belief about his [her, just as good] qualities, as far as they can be known, but this kind of knowing is far from the personal disclosure that Christians believe is found through Christ and accessed through prayer.







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frankbeswickFeb 9, 2023
DerdriuMarrinerFeb 8, 2023
Did that conviction encompass other members of your family, such as li'l sis Veronica, and how long did it last?
frankbeswickJan 27, 2022
Of course, listening to sacred music and meditating are pathways to God. I was reading about Pope Benedict, who strongly believes in the sacred power of music. In fact, he suggested that God did not just utter the words of creation, but sang them. The Logos [Word] of the prologue of John's Gospel should be imagined as sung rather than said,
Benedict liked the phrase used by Pythagoras and Kepler, the music of the spheres [music of creation, the song of the universe.] We find a similar idea in Tolkien's Silmarillion, where God propounds themes of music to the Ainur, to whom he entrusts the governance of creation.
DerdriuMarrinerJan 27, 2022
I appreciate the computer, but I wish it would be clearer and more cooperative about your smaller images! What is the image to the left of your title?
In particular, I love the Elijah story and the Psalms saying, "Be still, and know that I am God." It makes me understand about the self-isolating silences in Christian and Jewish traditions.
You mention daily readings and Mass. Would believing and practicing that belief not also be served with such supplements (not replacements) as listening to music, such as "Be Thou My Vision" and Gregorian chants, and meditating?
MiraNov 10, 2014
frankbeswickDec 13, 2013
MiraDec 13, 2013
Your posts and a few other things made me reach to an older book I have, called Jesus through the centuries. I never made time to read it, even though I did manage to start it and it appeared extremely interesting. Now I will be reading it.
frankbeswickDec 13, 2013
The two cannot be pulled apart, for theology is not just an academic exercise, but an act of devotion.
MiraDec 12, 2013
frankbeswickDec 10, 2013
MiraDec 10, 2013
frankbeswickDec 10, 2013
VioletteRoseDec 10, 2013
cmoneyspinnerSep 27, 2013
frankbeswickSep 27, 2013
cmoneyspinnerSep 27, 2013
@frankbeswick - May I address this?
Very briefly because it does not require a long drawn out dissertation.
- Point 1: If you believe the Bible is God's Word - then, at one time all men knew the one true God and they chose to break off the relationship.
- Point 2: Even though they did that, God still made Himself known and states plainly that He is never from any of us and if we truly seek Him, we will find Him.
That's it! That's all I had to say. I'm not here to debate.
Just want everyone to know that God is not an unrevealed mystery or an untouchable.
He has revealed Himself. God is love. :)
frankbeswickSep 15, 2013
jptanabeSep 14, 2013
frankbeswickSep 14, 2013
The ultimate reality is, I believe, a universal consciousness, a great mind. What is its precise relationship to the world I do not know. The Eastern religions see the deity as being in some sense continuous with the world, but the western faiths think that the two are different. Sometimes this deity discloses to us in revelations
WriterArtistSep 14, 2013
frankbeswickAug 20, 2013
The reason for believing in God derives, I believe, from the sense of the sacred, which we might call religious experience, and is what Buber called power/presence. The sacred isexperienced as a powerful reality. For some people it is experienced occasionally, but for others it is a background presence in their lives. Yet, all wise theologianss and religious scholars know that the image of God that puts form on the sense of the sacred is invented by humans, and that it falls far short of the reality. This does not mean that it is not true, but it is not true enough.
Atheists who mock the idea of a bronze age beardie sitting on a cloud fail to realize that their image is a mere caricature of the religious belief.
Catholicism believes in natural law, but does not accept the cocnept of karma, though it will acknowledge that ill-consequences ensue from evil.
WriterArtistAug 20, 2013
SidewalkPhilosopherAug 18, 2013
You are absolutely right! What has man to gain to inherit the world and lose himself? Immortality is found through the gospel of Jesus Christ; so that we may understand the path to eternal life. There, we find a new perspective on how to live our lives. With God, we know there once was a time when we were not; however, there will never be another time when we are not again!
frankbeswickJul 28, 2013
BrendaReevesJul 28, 2013
frankbeswickMay 26, 2013
However, is God a belief? If you have a religious experience it becomes more than a belief. However, we distinguish between belief and knowledge. Knowledge only exists when we can say QED, the case is absolutely proved. So far we have not been lto say that about God, so God is a belief. A belief will occur when a reasonable conclusion from evidence is drawn
davestone13May 26, 2013
But really, the single most convincing evidence is the existence of the very idea of an omnipresent God. Realistically, the concept is far too much for any individual or group to have simply created out of nowhere, much as atheists would like to argue that point. Where on earth would all those primitive tribes who universally believed a God have all come up with such a fantastic idea?
frankbeswickMay 17, 2013
AnomalousArtistMay 17, 2013
frankbeswickMay 2, 2013
katiem2May 2, 2013