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SusanM
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on 07/30/2012

Hi all, 

I've had my articles set on Google Adsense since signing up 6 months ago but am debating whether or not to swap to Chitika now. (I prefer the Paypal payments and $10 threshold VS $100.) Has anyone had experience with both? If so did your income generation drop at all when you swapped to Chitika or was it much the same? 

Thanks :) 

chefkeem
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on 07/30/2012

AdSense seems to be the better choice. Chitika is an alternative for folks who don't have an AdSense account.


Achim "Chef Keem" Thiemermann is the co-founder of a pretty cool new platform called...um...er...oh, yeah - Wizzley.com.
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Jerrico_Usher
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on 07/30/2012

I was thinking the same thing Susan. Although I originally just saw it as a brilliant way for those without adsense to partake in the ad madness too, I have to admit the way the chikta ads look and their prevalence all over the web (I see them everywhere even on HP, ezinearticles, and a lot of big sites) it begs me to want to know some stats between them.

I see adsense as -and often even ignored because they don't see them (the mental blind spot that happens when you get used to something to the point of blindness to it)... and can't help but think the different looking ads may be better.

I have no actual numbers to back that ideal and for now I want adsense, although I've seen merely 3.00 from wizzley adsense ads in 4 months my account and thus articles are still infants in the scheme of things...

I'd stick to adsense if you can get an account though, until some data is available to give you a real vantage point on the situation- adsense is seasoned and we know it works and gets clicks.

Just my 2 pennies...

Jerrico


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JoHarrington
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on 07/31/2012

 

Jerrico_Usher: 07/30/2012 - 09:04 PM

I was thinking the same thing Susan. Although I originally just saw it as a brilliant way for those without adsense to partake in the ad madness too, I have to admit the way the chikta ads look and their prevalence all over the web (I see them everywhere even on HP, ezinearticles, and a lot of big sites) it begs me to want to know some stats between them.

Le stats:   Can You Make Money with Chitika on Wizzley?


humagaia
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on 07/31/2012

A little off topic but to answer Jerrico when he says "I see adsense as -and often even ignored because they don't see them (the mental blind spot that happens when you get used to something to the point of blindness to it)"

A. If most of your traffic is from Google there is a good chance that you are correct in your assumption as it is likely that the visitor has already been exposed to relevant ads on the SERPs.

However, if you have many sources of traffic (which is the result you should be aiming at) then those that do not arrive from Google are less blinded by familiarity. Well over 50% of my traffic arrives from sources other than Wizzley and Google - but I am pretty sure (from comments made by Simon on my stats page make-up) that the majority here are reliant on Google for ad-clicking visitors.

My guess would be that Chitika would supplant some of the income but would not exceed your income generating capacity.

The only way to test whether this is the case would be for Wizzley to allow us to determine whether Adsense or Chitika ads were to be placed on articles at an individual level, and to swap between them after a set period. Since the ad networks are competing at the site level and are implemented at that level, I reckon this could be implemented without causing Google to 'complain'.

My best advice though would be to stick with Adsense unless you have a solid reason to change. Maybe though it is the best time to check out Chitika when your Adsense income is low.


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on 07/31/2012

Surprised doh!


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JoHarrington
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on 07/31/2012

 

chefkeem: 07/30/2012 - 06:25 PM

AdSense seems to be the better choice. Chitika is an alternative for folks who don't have an AdSense account.

 

humagaia: 07/31/2012 - 04:56 AM
My guess would be that Chitika would supplant some of the income but would not exceed your income generating capacity.

Jerrico made $3 from Adsense in his first four months.  I made $2.79 during the same period with Chitika.

On behalf of everyone ever stamped on by Google, can I just point out how terrifying such guesses are.  All over the internet, you read endless comments about how great Google is. If they kicked you out, then it has to be your own fault.  And if you don't have Adsense, you might as well give up, shut up and never darken cyberspace again.

I'm not putting words in your mouth here.  I know that you haven't said this precisely (and, in fact, you've been extremely helpful backstage in teaching me about monetization).  But everywhere I look the perceived wisdom is that Adsense > Chitika.  Nowhere can I find the actual data and statistics backing up this assertion.

Google, on Wizzley, is afforded five advertizement slots per Wizzle.  Chitika is given two.  In that perspective, then didn't my earnings outstrip Jerrico's?

 


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on 07/31/2012

What works for some types of content may not work for others.

At one stage I had hundreds of web properties and 1 million + uniques per month, I'd test ad networks all the time, here are my conclusions:

  • AdSense was usually the best paying CPC network for most of my niches
  • Chitika usually wasn't
  • But Chitika sometimes was for certain niches
  • Affiliate networks brought in 75% of my income, CPC is actually a pretty shitty monetization method in the grand scheme of things
  • Chitika seemed to literally run out of money at periods, they don't get the spend that Adwords gets.

There is no right or wrong answer. Chitika is actually handy for web properties which may be grey area in terms of AdSense terms of service, which is what I generally used it for..... they have a much more liberal policy for both advertisers and publishers.

I'd happily produce a much more comprehensive data analysis and typed report, but my fee would run well into four figures Tongue Out

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Jerrico_Usher
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on 07/31/2012

interesting... I don't know much about chikita but I don't depend at all on adsense earnings anyway, this late in the game and this new a site, I don't think I have the traffic to earn from adsense, and you can actually do much better on amazon and other modules than adsense really- you can put more "ads" in longer articles if you have the words to back them (50-100 words per ad requirement for example), and the adsense textual ads are ignored a lot anyway, your amazon ads can double as pictures, as landscape aesthetics, and they are not the same humdrum stuff people are used to seeing really, they have so many options and you can fully embed them in your article without even looking like ads...

What would you rather see, a product placement ad (guy in movie holding a pepsi can) or a commercial ad for pepsi on an article? With embedable ads you can make every one feel like product placement (seamless to a great extent) which is a better user reader experience and blends into the scenery like shrubbery or a roach coach truck at a court house :) 

It comes down to emotional response your article provokes by informing them enough to make a buying decision (but without "selling" them on it, just informing), the pictures/amazon modules feel like pilliars or pictures but if the information provokes their emotional side they will "want" and thus "see" the ads as a portal to fulfilling a desire to buy something you provoked, textuals are ok but like a newspaper b&w ad compared to the colorful ads in the sunday paper we enjoy even though we know they are ads- because it's fun to see what's selling out there right?

My money is on amazon, zazzle, (to a tiny degree so far, all posters) and ebay clicks (cause no product shares are given the SOB's ... ehum....

When traffic is high I still bank on the actual product ads (amazon etc...) over adsense...

So I'm not too worried about either really, it's nice that they bring in some Ad CENTS for the moment but I check amazon more than anything else...

Jerrico

off to bed...3:05 am, even the cats are passed out. (since they sleep all day you'd think they'd be energetic at night right?)

 

 


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Jerrico_Usher
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on 07/31/2012

(just so you know ryan you can delete all but what content you want to talk about in a "quote" hehe)...

I'd like to get that report from you, full detail and 4 figures right? I just have one stipulation, I want to be the one who decides where the decimal place holder goes... i.e. .0001 (still 4 figures right?)...

hehe

J-

ryank: 07/31/2012 - 06:03 AM

I'd happily produce a much more comprehensive data analysis and typed report, but my fee would run well into four figures Tongue Out

 


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JoHarrington: 07/31/2012 - 05:19 AM

 

Google, on Wizzley, is afforded five advertizement slots per Wizzle.  Chitika is given two.  In that perspective, then didn't my earnings outstrip Jerrico's?

 

That depends on the traffic numbers, Jo.


Achim "Chef Keem" Thiemermann is the co-founder of a pretty cool new platform called...um...er...oh, yeah - Wizzley.com.
JoHarrington
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on 07/31/2012

Oh dear, this sounds like it's going to involve maths.  Cry   How do traffic numbers affect it?


chefkeem
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on 07/31/2012

No math LOL

If, during the same time period, Jerrico made $3 (AdSense) from 1,000 visitors, and you made $3 (Chitika) from 10,000 visitors, AdSense seems to be the better deal.


Achim "Chef Keem" Thiemermann is the co-founder of a pretty cool new platform called...um...er...oh, yeah - Wizzley.com.
JoHarrington
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on 07/31/2012

Ah!  Ok, that makes sense.

So like for like comparisons are always going to be difficult.  Traffic numbers, time of year, subject content, quality of writing etc could all have an affect.  And probably a dozen other factors that I haven't even considered.


SusanM
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on 07/31/2012

Thanks guys great discussion

I agree about affiliates. My Amazon income is far better than anything that comes through Adsense. 

I think I'll stick with my Adsense. 

Thanks again :)

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