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It's Moments Like This That I Really Appreciate Wizzley

 
JoHarrington
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on 10/03/2012

I did start my on-line writing on a couple of other sites.  I won't name names, as that wouldn't be right. 

One site welcomed me with open arms, but in the post-Panda turmoil major changes kept happy without any prior warning from the management.  We'd suddenly all have to turn on a sixpence, with no rationale.  Though things gradually got a little better.

However, I've just visited and learned that they've changed all of article URLs.  No redirect, as that's apparently bad practice for Google these days.  There was no announcement.  Someone found out and brought it up on the forum.  We've just all been told to find every bit of site promotion and correct the URLs linking back to our articles there.

Yeah, good luck with that.

Then I wander back into to Wizzley.  Just the fact that there are site announcements still makes me gape.  Then the team are accessible too! 

I feel like little orphan Annie come in from the cold.  Still so thrilled to be treated like a human being, that my enthusiasm bubbles over into endless articles and recommendations.  I love the community here.  Never fighting or kicking off.  Never having to anxiously speculate on what terrible thing is happening next.  Having a laugh with whatever games our imagination can throw up.

I'm really learning my craft here; and I'm so grateful to everyone who's taken the time to teach me.  I know it must be a drain, especially when it's noob stuff and I have a million questions.  I just hope that I'm putting back a fraction of what I'm taking.  It really is invaluable and apparently across the board.

I'll be honest and say that it's been bloody hard work these past couple of years here. I won't go into the sob stories, but it's not been fun.  But finding Wizzley, meeting you lot, has been a breath of fresh air.  It's given me back some hope; and renewed my faith in humanity.

It's moments like this that I really appreciate you all and I thought you should know that.

Thank you.

Jo

xxxxx

 


Ragtimelil
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on 10/03/2012

awwwwwww, sniff. 

Not that I'm helping much - you're my inspiration!


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JoHarrington
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on 10/03/2012

 

Ragtimelil: 10/03/2012 - 09:21 PM

awwwwwww, sniff. 

Not that I'm helping much - you're my inspiration!

You so are!  I took a long hard look at your deaf badges, then another long hard look at my 'write often, write well' postcards.   Making them prettier is now on my To Do list and that's your inspiration right there!


Ragtimelil
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on 10/03/2012

Well, that's the fun stuff - writing is HARD!


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Simon
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on 10/04/2012

Thank you Jo! That's so nice to read and motivates us all! Smile <3


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CADoerr
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on 10/04/2012

One Hand washes the other ;)


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dustytoes
Posts: 1140
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on 10/04/2012

I totally agree Jo!  You've said it well.  This place is actually a joy to visit!

Kiss


humagaia
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on 10/04/2012

Seconded, or is it thirded, or is it fourthted. As we have noted previously, a little bit of democracy goes a long way to making a pleasant experience.

I'm afraid that I have not been writing much lately, this being due to a major project that is just about coming to fruition. 

One other thing: the efforts of Wizzley staff to make this a quality site seems to be having a positive impact. HP has seen yet another major cut to visitor numbers following the latest Google update - the forum there discussed it in detail, yet there was no requirement for a debate here as there seemed to be little or no impact.

HP has lost between 20% and 35% of its traffic over the last 3 months (depending on which measuring website you use). According to Alexa Wizzley has gained 15% in the same period. Stats lie I know but each is significant. At some time W will see a great increase in the number of writers that flee that sinking ship. Everything that HP tries to stem the haemorrhaging of visitor numbers by playing the Google game seems for nought.


onetimeuser
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on 10/04/2012

 

humagaia: 10/04/2012 - 04:34 PM

 

HP has lost between 20% and 35% of its traffic over the last 3 months (depending on which measuring website you use). According to Alexa Wizzley has gained 15% in the same period. Stats lie I know but each is significant. At some time W will see a great increase in the number of writers that flee that sinking ship. Everything that HP tries to stem the haemorrhaging of visitor numbers by playing the Google game seems for nought.

Well Alexa is pretty useless, ridiculously inaccurate in fact, as it only measures traffic from those who have the Alexa toolbar installed.

And the only people who have the Alexa toolbar installed are people who own websites. For that reason an eCommerce selling shirts could get 300,000 hits a day and have an Alexa rank of 1,500,000...... while an SEO blog getting 20,000 hits a day could have an Alexa rank of 1500. 

But Quantcast stats for hubpages and squidoo should be accurate, because hubpages and squidoo have elected to allow Quantcast to measure their traffic and report it to the public (which is why it says 'Directly measured by Quantcast' on the page). 

Where a site hasn't inserted Quantcast code onto it's pages it says "This publisher has not implemented Quantcast Measurement. Data is estimated and not verified by Quantcast", which is what you get when you type in Wizzley.com.

So Quantcast is as accurate as you can get, it should in theory be just as accurate as Google analytics when talking about hubpages and squidoo stats.

onetimeuser
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on 10/04/2012

At some time W will see a great increase in the number of writers that flee that sinking ship. Everything that HP tries to stem the haemorrhaging of visitor numbers by playing the Google game seems for nought.

Their only hope is undoing some of the mistakes that they have made, particularly the subdomain switch.

It proved effective for a few months, now it isn't, that should be reason enough to try something else.

I quite like the idea of topic subdomains, each in a magazine style with their own branding. They could have gone down this route they chose not to, all of the knowledgeable people were stating this as a preference. Oli & SF for example.

Imagine environment.hubpages.com, with a tasteful green design. And iphone.hubpages.com.

Then there is social metrics. Hubpages collects writers on the facebook page for hubpages.com, but they don't collect readers.

20,000 followers is a pitiful amount for a website which still takes half a million uniques per day. They could create facebook fan pages for every topic subdomain, those people will be following their area of interest. E.g. Environment @ hubpages.

It means that those readers will share pages. 

Hubpages missed a huge opportunity to be an absolute powerhouse in my opinion, instead they became a blogger-esque site.

Now, blogger blogs actually rank pretty well, and you have more control of your pages, and you can take 100%.

So if people lose the benefit of being on a multi-author site and are left to fend by themselves, then why the hell would they give 40% to hubpages when a perfectly sufficient substitute exists in blogger/blogspot?

recipes.hubpages.com - it would have been immense. The subdomains wrecked their site in my opinion, it was a temporary fix and if they had had longer term vision they could have created a monster. But they didn't, basically.

Jerrico_Usher
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on 10/04/2012

@J0

Right? Ya feel me? Know what I'm sayin? Right? Wizzley rules, no doubt. You want proof people, let's do a simple "Google search" one for "Hubpages (or any other site) Forum" one for "Wizzley" or "Wizzley forum". Read results for a few minutes on each one. Nuff said! Wizzley posts are positive, vibrant, and we once had a user post a simple PERIOD, likely an accident and post, or maybe they changed their mind about what to or if they wanted to post, who knows, but that one post got several dozen responses, even funny ones, - it was a PERIOD---> "." <--- That period is a permalink to that thread just like it appeared in my notifications (almost missed it!)

Just goes to show why we have so much fun over here... we keep it light and vibrant, and our articles reflect our social prowess as well- I think I mention something like that in an article somewhere, community and articles are linked- community helps you get a brain break so you can continue to write more... writing all the time isn't fun, but getting feedback (on other articles) while writing a new one is a fun process we all need support from time to time - that's also the fun in always publishing new stuff- you get more attention!

 

Jerrico


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humagaia
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on 10/05/2012

Ryan - HP has descended into a 'monster' - it could have been a behemoth!

Agree with your points though. I followed what Oli and SF were saying, but was too new to the game to have any input back then.

As Wizzley approaches critical mass it would be sensible for the powers that be seriously to consider the category sub-domain option. At least here they are willing to consider suggestions that could enhance the user-experience and the attraction of footfall.

And that is what Jo intimated - an adult attitude - even if, at times, it impacts us 'negatively'. Those negatives become positives when we consider and adjust our own writing and linking strategies.

The more seasoned writers that arrive here the better, as long as they can accept criticism and wish still to improve their writing acumen.


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