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Publish Summaries of Wizzles at Daily Two Cents

 
cmoneyspinner
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on 04/21/2015

Don't know if this will work but it might be worth a try. There are so many fine Wizzley pages here and Daily Two Cents allows their members to link back or back link. Alexandria has already convinced us that the site is not a scam. See Are Writedge and Daily Two Cents Scams? Do any of you ever consider summarizing your pages in about 100 words, publishing the summary at dailytwocents.com and then sharing the link to your Wizzley page for further reading? It might drive traffic to it. Just wondering.


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on 04/21/2015

I thought this was the type of thing that the Penguin algorithm was design for, to stop unnatural linking like this? Personally I strive for organic links, you know, the kind people give you because they like and respect your work?

I don't think it's necessarily bad to summarize an article though, "as long as it not a copy paste job"  it could drive traffic from those who might be interested, just like sharing at any social media site.

But for back links, I would be afraid that it would cause more harm than good. Admittedly though, trying to decipher exactly what Google likes and dislikes down to an exact number is impossible to figure.

I would be careful to at least make sure any place I link to is VERY relevant to what I am writing about in a particular article. 

 

 

 

cmoneyspinner
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on 04/21/2015

The question was asked without giving any thought to the Google algorithm or any other SEO-thingamabobs.

To me, if I see an article I like, write up a quick summary, and supply a contextual link – how is that different from the way people used to write on paper before the digital age? It's tantamount to saying: “Hey! Check this out! You might like it!”

Truthfully, I never give too much weight to the algorithm stuff because as you say “They're always changing the dang thing anyway!”

I'm mentioning this topic in a forum because:

If I share a summary and a link via Daily Two Cents, there's income potential there for me because DTC is pay-per-view.

If the reader clicks and visits the Wizzle, there's potential income for the Wizzler … or not.

I have done this for other Wizzley writers. They didn't mind.

* But! … They could have done it themselves.

So that's why I brought up the subject because:

Maybe writers here are not aware that a quick summary at DTC might earn them a little extra cash and redirect traffic to their pages, and earn them a little more extra cash.

 Smile


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on 04/22/2015

I wouldn't like someone copy and pasting a summary of one of my articles to another site and risking me a penalty for duplicate content.

There are a lot of scrapers out there stealing our content that use automated software to lift summaries of our text and photos also many times. Sometimes these people rank higher than our original content. This type of thing I do not like, and always fight by filing a DMCA removal request. I realize what you are taking about is different, but it could cause issues with the duplicate content.

I think it is a mistake for a writer today not to think about what the search engines want from us,  I am not saying be completely paralyzed by it of course.

 

 

 

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on 04/22/2015

 

cmoneyspinner: 04/21/2015 - 06:48 PM

Truthfully, I never give too much weight to the algorithm stuff because as you say “They're always changing the dang thing anyway!”

 

 

Well, I didn't exactly say that! I do give weight to what Google says NOT to do, I just do not worry about it with every breath I take online.

This is what I said: "Admittedly though, trying to decipher exactly what Google likes and dislikes down to an exact number is impossible to figure"

I don't discount that Google does penalize certain things, I like to stay away away from those practices as much as possible.

Again: Not 100% sure that there would be anything wrong with what you're talking about.

sockii
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on 04/22/2015

 

VintageGuy: 04/21/2015 - 05:41 PM

Personally I strive for organic links, you know, the kind people give you because they like and respect your work?

That's my philosophy too, and it's served me a lot better through the years than artificial/spammy link-dropping in any form or fashion. I definitely think one has to be careful about that, and I've found it rarely drives meaningful traffic anyway. The potential for harm and abuse is too great.

Contrast this: I say I write a bunch of short "blurbs" about my wizzles, or articles elsewhere, to a random audience of people who have no particular interest in the topic I'm writing about. Are they going to actually click that link? Read through, buy a product, share it with friends? Probably not. Compare that to someone else whose involved in a particular community or interest who finds my article, shares it organically on a subreddit for that topic. Next thing I know I've got hundreds of hits on that article and the traffic remains steady for a long time. That's the kind of links I think are valuable and I hope for. But I try not to force it or push the issue.

And, I definitely would not want someone writing blurbs about my wizzles and linking to them on another content platform without my consent first.

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on 04/22/2015

Yeah my main concern would be someone doing it without my knowledge, and 100 words seems to be a bit excessive on a summary. 

I think it's good to have discussions like this so we can all learn from each other. :)

sockii
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on 04/22/2015

(And sorry for the typos in my post above which I can't edit now. That's what I get for trying to be coherent before my morning coffee...)

cmoneyspinner
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on 04/22/2015

I totally agree.  Thank you for letting me know your thoughts.  It's really good to see you here.  As soon as I saw those pages about jazz ... I thought:  "Is this who I think it is!  Yeah!  It's him!!! The Dark Prince of Jazz!" Cool


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cmoneyspinner
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on 04/22/2015

Yeah sockii.  Consent is important.  Because although you may think you're doing a good thing, the other person may not want their stuff on that platform or may not want you to share in that manner for whatever reason. The people who allowed me to share were OK about it. I checked with them because if they aren't pleased then it ain't right for me to do it no matter what. It's their stuff. They totally have the right to object!!


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cmoneyspinner
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on 04/22/2015

OK.  You didn't say that but that was my take.  Let me rephrase.  That Google SEO Panda / Penguin / HummingBird thingamabob-whatchamacallit makes my head hurt. (O.o) I'm talking Frustration with a capital "F".


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cmoneyspinner
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on 04/22/2015

I've heard about those "scrapers". Not cool!


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LindaSmith1
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on 04/24/2015

I don't do that with another persons articles. However, if i do see one that is related to mine, has great information, I may create a separate text box with a title like  More Information, Related Articles etc and include their link, but that is about it.  


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AlexandriaIngham
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on 04/24/2015

I've not read this whole thread yet. Thanks cmoneyspiner for linking to my article on DTC and Writedge. They're definitely not scams :)

I just wanted to comment on this before I forget:

<quote>I wouldn't like someone copy and pasting a summary of one of my articles to another site and risking me a penalty for duplicate content.</quote>

The duplicate content penalty comes from having the same content on the same site. So using multiple categories on a WordPress blog, for example. It's not from using the same content elsewhere. Using up to 50 words is actually fair use and plenty of people use that and then a link back to content without most authors realising. It would be ridiculous for Google to penalise against that because there's nothing wrong with doing it in terms of copyright. However, Google can penalise for using a whole piece elsewhere, which is why it is better to make changes if you plan to reuse your content to make it a little more unique.

cmoneyspinner
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on 04/24/2015

Yes. I do that also. Thanks for chiming in, Linda.


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cmoneyspinner
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on 04/24/2015

Agree with you Alexandria. Thanks for the clarification about "duplicate content". When I shared links back to the Wizzley articles that were not mine, it wasn't a copy and paste job. Also, my friends didn't seem interested in signing up for DTC, but I wanted to share their work with others. DTC is really growing and thought the share might give them more online exposure. I'm really glad I opened up this discussion here. Great feedback!


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on 04/24/2015

 

AlexandriaIngham: 04/24/2015 - 10:31 AM

I've not read this whole thread yet. Thanks cmoneyspiner for linking to my article on DTC and Writedge. They're definitely not scams :)

I just wanted to comment on this before I forget:

<quote>I wouldn't like someone copy and pasting a summary of one of my articles to another site and risking me a penalty for duplicate content.</quote>

The duplicate content penalty comes from having the same content on the same site. So using multiple categories on a WordPress blog, for example. It's not from using the same content elsewhere. Using up to 50 words is actually fair use and plenty of people use that and then a link back to content without most authors realising. It would be ridiculous for Google to penalise against that because there's nothing wrong with doing it in terms of copyright. However, Google can penalise for using a whole piece elsewhere, which is why it is better to make changes if you plan to reuse your content to make it a little more unique.

I think 50 words is reasonable.

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