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Jerrico_Usher
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on 02/13/2013

Michelle Stumbled upon this article about neutrinos and time travel and even a theory about clairvoyance being neutrinos from the future carrying information back to the past and being "read" by people with "the vision" but really just an ability to read neutrinos... pretty fascinating stuff!

http://www.learning-mind.com/the-reality-of-parallel-worlds-and-time-travel-is-proved/


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JoHarrington
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on 02/13/2013

As an historian, I'm so holding out for time travel to be invented.  It would revolutionize the study of any event.  We'd just go back with a camera and notebook.  :)

 


2uesday
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But Jo -  you might change the course of history, oh wait a second, just thought that might not be such a bad thing in some cases.

Maybe you would only be allowed to do it if you took an oath not to change events. I cannot remember the quote from StarTrek, but it might be something along those lines. Thinking about it, I think the world will get too complicated for me eventually.

Paul
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Sorry to say, but as it stands, neutrinos don't travel faster than light.

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Physicists working at the European Center for Nuclear Research (CERN) in Switzerland on Friday concluded once and for all that neutrinos are definitely not faster than the speed of light, preserving Einstein’s Theory of Special Relativity that was challenged by earlier experiments.

Sam
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on 02/13/2013

Oops, over read something.


JoHarrington
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Paul: 02/13/2013 - 08:20 AM

Sorry to say, but as it stands, neutrinos don't travel faster than light.

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Physicists working at the European Center for Nuclear Research (CERN) in Switzerland on Friday concluded once and for all that neutrinos are definitely not faster than the speed of light, preserving Einstein’s Theory of Special Relativity that was challenged by earlier experiments.

Y u break my heart?!

I had plans!  First stop, a bargee camp in the 19th century, just to find out precisely who my gt-gt-grandmother was.  Then all infinity!!


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JoHarrington: 02/13/2013 - 09:56 AM

 

Paul: 02/13/2013 - 08:20 AM

Sorry to say, but as it stands, neutrinos don't travel faster than light.

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Physicists working at the European Center for Nuclear Research (CERN) in Switzerland on Friday concluded once and for all that neutrinos are definitely not faster than the speed of light, preserving Einstein’s Theory of Special Relativity that was challenged by earlier experiments.

Y u break my heart?!

I had plans!  First stop, a bargee camp in the 19th century, just to find out precisely who my gt-gt-grandmother was.  Then all infinity!!

I'll fix it by informing you that NASA are to begin working on developing a FTL drive! Here's the proposed design, it's still not confirmed it'll work at all, but it's something!

Jerrico_Usher
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on 02/13/2013

I believe in the multiverse theology, where every choice you make just takes you down a different "time" path, so if you did travel back in time you'd not be in the same time line but rather an alternate one that would have happened had you changed your choices at some specific point- thus changing history isn't really possible- changing a reality to another one that you know choices will build should be beneficial in THAT time line/verse... I just think it's fascinating to talk about/read about...


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Jerrico_Usher: 02/13/2013 - 01:39 PM

changing a reality to another one that you know choices will build should be beneficial in THAT time line/verse

I can't imagine this being possible, what with chaos theory and all :(

Sam
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Jerrico_Usher: 02/13/2013 - 01:39 PM

I believe in the multiverse theology, where every choice you make just takes you down a different "time" path, so if you did travel back in time you'd not be in the same time line but rather an alternate one that would have happened had you changed your choices at some specific point- thus changing history isn't really possible- changing a reality to another one that you know choices will build should be beneficial in THAT time line/verse... I just think it's fascinating to talk about/read about...

No you have ruined time travel for Jo for ever. If that is true what you write, nobody could ever find out "the truth" about our past because in fact their would be an unlimited amounts of pasts available ;-) SY


JoHarrington
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Sam: 02/13/2013 - 02:04 PM

 

Jerrico_Usher: 02/13/2013 - 01:39 PM

I believe in the multiverse theology, where every choice you make just takes you down a different "time" path, so if you did travel back in time you'd not be in the same time line but rather an alternate one that would have happened had you changed your choices at some specific point- thus changing history isn't really possible- changing a reality to another one that you know choices will build should be beneficial in THAT time line/verse... I just think it's fascinating to talk about/read about...

No you have ruined time travel for Jo for ever. If that is true what you write, nobody could ever find out "the truth" about our past because in fact their would be an unlimited amounts of pasts available ;-) SY

Back to the drawing board.  I want time travel where I can take notes please.   Proper time travel.  Like 'Back to the Future'.


Jerrico_Usher
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ok ok I have a time machine. It's small and portable, I can use it anywhere and I can set it to any time I need...

It's called a watch :)

No the multiverse theory wouldn't make it impossible to find the truth, the impossibility is that there is no truth, there is no spoon, the spoon does not bend, it is only yourself that bends - The Matrix.... I believe reality is not so static and fixed, it's more fluid and ever-changing and we're starting to realize how multidemensional our reality is.

The traveling would likely look pretty similar to that show sliders, same time, different verse, same type of reality but based on different choice "trunks"/trees and even different evolutionary paths based on those choices- it's possible human beings would have been frogs evolved into intelligent beings had earlier evolution of man gone different or maybe not... it's all theory in the end.

It goes to show how one decision can change an entire reality- i.e. Hitler never being born may have led the way for a much worse dictator, had vanilla Ice not made a fool of himself but with dope music, would white rappers be where they are today?... but again you wouldn't change your native time line, just the new one...

Oh boy I may need to post my time article, I just don't want to mop through the mud (I wrote it before I learned to write good *wink* (I know it's supposed to be "well")...

I'm working on a book/script/movie called "Awakena" based on time travel and "in life" reincarnation (moving through realities to your "other selves" on purpose and how dying just instantly throws you into another reality- not death, but most people don't realize it they just i.e. get into a horrible car accident and wake up alive, they died in one reality/verse and woke up in another possible reality where they didn't die, just got horribly mangled- to the person they just survived the crash but in reality (of my movie) they did die, but their soul shifted to another reality to reset and try to get it right this time. In my movie nobody truly dies or reincarnates long form (die, lives entire new life, dies, lives entire new life), they live until they die (naturally or otherwise) then are reset...

Awakena is essentially a term that means waking up, fully aware... it gets cooler when you factor in that there are an elite small group of people who are awake and realize this and actually don't fear or run from death, they embrace it when needed to move through to a new reality- it's much deeper and complex than this but I don't want to give away all the goodies... it wouldn't be an expensive movie to make it's mainly mind tripping stuff not special effects driven... 


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Simon
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To further nurture these speculation: According to Einstein's equations, there's a chance that "faster than light" particles do exist, and that they may transmit information back in time. They are called Tachyons. Neutrinos have been suspected to have a tachyonic nature, but the thesis was proven wrong. Anyways, we're talking about transmitting information back in time - but in order to make time travel possible, we'd first need to invent something like beaming people from A to B Tongue Out.


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'Time' is a third-dimensional concept that exists only in our conscious (3rd-dimensional) mind. Its limitations include a (gone) past, the present moment, and the (not-yet-happened) future.

Whenever we slip into a higher state of mind (4th dimensional, 'super conscious'), i.e., in dreams or meditation, we have no problems connecting with the past, or envisioning the future, because it is all part of the one, eternal moment of our existence. There is no 'linear time' in higher dimensions.

So, I don't think it makes sense to build a 3rd-dimensional time machine to explore 4th-dimensional stuff.

 


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JoHarrington
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Simon: 02/14/2013 - 04:32 AM
but in order to make time travel possible, we'd first need to invent something like beaming people from A to B Tongue Out.

I have a friend who's a physicist.  He once told me that this can theoretically be done quite easily.  The problem comes with putting them back together again at the other end.  -.-


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@Jo: *lol* Yeah, the first part is quite easy. It only requires a strong LASER beam :-D


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JoHarrington
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How long do you think it'll take to sort out the second bit?   Should I start packing now?


Simon
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It's probably a better idea to write a message *now* to your grand-grand-grand...children that they should come get you with their time machine when they have finally invented these things Laughing.


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Or, close your eyes, take a deep breath, and ... GO!

If we've learned anything from Einstein, it's that we won't get there on physics alone.   Smiley


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WOW! I just found THIS:

 

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