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Pies for Christmas and Thanksgiving Family Dinners

Pies are perhaps the easiest food to bring to a family dinner. Many pies can be kept at room temperature for long travel, and can add delight to the meal. Pies are tasty.

Pies are fun food items, and whoever brings one or more scrumptious pies is likely to be asked to repeat in the future. And, you will have taken on a major role in making the occasion festive. Every holiday season families come together, and the focus of those gatherings is usually a family meal. And, it is customary in many families to have everyone bring something to those dinners. The burden of all of the work, and the bearing of all of the expense, should not fall on the host and hostess. But what should one bring to help with the dinner? Pies avoid several problems.

The Advantages of Pies

One problem is space for warming the dishes.  Ovens can hold only so much, and if several people add a dish to it for warming there is likely to be a problem fitting things in.  Yet all dishes served at the same time must be heated over the same time.  Pies are eaten as dessert, so even if a pie is preferred to be served warm there is time after the other dishes are removed to place them in the oven.

 

Another problem is food can spoil if left at the wrong temperature too long.  This is a concern in transporting many dishes.  But, pies can be eaten warm, cooled in a refrigerator until needed, or even eaten, and for many pies left at room temperature for the day.  So safely transporting most types of pies is easier in the safety sense.

 

Pies are easy to transport, with less danger of spillage.  There are not small bits of food to fall from a dish as it bounces along a highway.

 

And, pies can be placed in throw away aluminum pie pans for the meal.  With other dishes there are often leftovers, and that either means leaving a bowl or tray behind, or wasting food that exceeds the storage containers available or the capacity of the refrigerator.  If the pie pan is a throw away it will store leftover pie just fine, and will not cause a problem of later retrieval of it.

 

So, if you do not have a special dish that everyone waits for, and no one else has claimed pies as what they are bringing, pie is an excellent option.   And, if there are leftovers, it is something the host and hostess are more likely to be able to finish before it goes bad.

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Pies Require a Pan for Baking

Baking your own pies does require a pie pan.  I would recommend a non-stick pan.  Of course every oven is different, and different pans work better for electric ovens, gas ovens, and even convection ovens.  So, some people will prefer a glass pie pan or a ceramic pie pan.  What works best in your oven is what you should choose.  Of course you can bake in the aluminum pie pan, but I would think the aluminum is the most likely to heat fast and possibly burn the bottom of the pie.

Pie Pans

OvenStuff Non-Stick 9 Inch Pie Pan Two Piece Set
Pyrex Easy Grab 9.5" Glass Pie Plate, 2 Pack
Nordic Ware Natural Aluminum Commercial Hi-Dome Covered Pie Pan
Good Cook 9 Inch Ceramic Pie Plate, Red

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Use Pie Weights

Pie weights reduce the problem of having bubbles form in the crust.  The ones shown are ceramic balls.

Pie weights

Mrs. Anderson's Baking Ceramic Pie Weights

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Bake a Couple of Pies

For this you will want a recipe for each type you will bake, unless you are already a skilled pie baker.  What you should not do is find frozen pies at the supermarket.  That simply will not do.  And, you must decide whether or not you will prepare the crust from scratch, which is the best option. 

 

Pie recipes are easily found online.  Look at the web and find a multitude of pie recipes..  

 

There are pies by type.  You probably would want the fruit pies or the vintage pies, but custard pies and others are also shown, just watch if refrigeration is needed.  The fruit pies covered include well over one hundred recipes. 

 

Or, you can get a cookbook that is concentrated on pies.

 

It is best to use fresh ingredients, but during the fall and early winter many types of fruit can be found.  Perhaps apple and cheery would make nice pies.  But, pumpkin is another nice choice.  

Pie Baking Cookbooks

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Transporting a Pie

The warm pie exudes an aroma that is part of the experience of partaking of it.  So, if the pie can arrive and still be warm when taken out the aroma will spread throughout the room.  To transport a pie while it is warm requires a special insulated carrier.  And, if the pie has been transferred to an aluminum pan, it will have also been loosened from the pan in which it was baked, making serving easier.

Food Carriers

12" Round Bake and Carry Houndstooth Print Insulated Cake Holder Tote
Rachael Ray Universal Thermal Carrier, Red
MontoPack Disposable 9-inch Aluminum Foil Tart/Pie Pans (Pack of 20)

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Trivets Save Surfaces

A pan that is too warm might harm the furniture, so if the pie is to be served warm bring a trivet for each pie.  These can be taken home when you leave, along with your pie carrier.

 

Holiday Trivets

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Updated April 3, 2025

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DerdriuMarrinerJan 27, 2025

Saint Valentine's Day, Presidents' Day and Saint Patrick's Day are around the corner.

La nina ("the girl child") causes winter 2024-2025 to come cold, icy and sleety and snowy, long for Unitedstatesians outside southeastern United States and dry, short, warm inside.

But the southeastern United States so far has had some icy, sleety, snowy, wintery mornings, evenings and nights.

It means that what matters in your wizzley perhaps matters for the aforementioned holiday trio.

Might your product line have anything particularly commendable in the way of family-dinner pies for the presidential and the two saintly days?

DerdriuMarrinerOct 26, 2024

Pie weights intrigue me.

Your product is ceramic even as online sources identify ceramic or metal as well as bean, rice or sugar weights.

Is the bean, rice or sugar weight edible?

VeronicaAug 27, 2015

Anglo -Norman French had an e on gaole. The English dropped the e so as in gaol. It became gayole. But I .... :) .... use gaol. Never jail . Jaiole is from Old French.

And as the Normans were over 1000 years ago and invaded England I think that is old enough.

frankbeswickAug 27, 2015

Whatever you fancy, but gaol is Norman-French rather than old English.

VeronicaAug 27, 2015

I prefer old English spellings when possible.

Fayres always seems more traditional. I think it derives from the word "fare " which traditionally referred to an occasion where food would be sold. Fair should refer to a place of enjoyment and fun. Fun Fair . So, "Fayre" is probably more technically accurate for food fayres. Fare referring here to food.

My favourite old English spelling though would be "gaol " for jail . I always use "gaol" if I write the word.

dustytoesAug 26, 2015

I love that spelling of fayres! I love pies too, and have a pie basket made by a local basket company here in New Hampshire. It has a stand so I could carry 2 pies - if I had someplace to go with 2 home-baked pies.

frankbeswickAug 25, 2015

Fayres [fairs] Mira, are commonest in Spring and Summer, but there are some in Autumn and winter. Try typing food festivals into your search engine. You can also search out country shows and flower shows. The Royal Horticultural Society has several shows in London. Often at all shows there will be food section where vendors will sell off the foods that they produce.

blackspanielgalleryAug 24, 2015

What I like best is to eat the pies.

VeronicaAug 24, 2015

BSG

Thank you for your article.

Mira, maybe ... you should make some pies to sell at the foodfayres and farmers' markets :) Start a trend thanks to Black Spaniel.

blackspanielgalleryAug 22, 2015

Wow, I went out for a few hours and found some interesting conversations going on here. You are all welcome to continue to interact with each other. And thank every one of you for visiting.

MiraAug 22, 2015

I love them too. We also get fresh produce, cheeses, preserves . . . and some pastries, but no pies.

VeronicaAug 22, 2015

I love the food fayres and farmers' markets . Speciality cheeses, pies, sauces, jams and jellies.

VeronicaAug 22, 2015

MY fault for not explaining fully. I do apologise. We use a mix of white and yellow fat ( lard and butter or margarine ) with more white than yellow , very cold from the fridge and not roughly handled, ice cold water from fridge . some people use egg but my sons are allergic to eggs .

MiraAug 22, 2015

Oh, butter and margarine -- of course! :)

MiraAug 22, 2015

Frank and Veronica: Next time I visit London I'll go to a gastropub that serves game pies. I'll do a research online now that I know that that's where I can find them (as I'm not sure I'll be able to attend fairs, even though I'd like that very much).

VeronicaAug 22, 2015

So sorry Mira, Yellow fat would be butter or a very good quality hard cold margarine. I do think it is the lard that does it. Keep everything cold.

MiraAug 22, 2015

Thank you, Veronica! It's the lard that makes it so good. But what exactly do you mean by yellow fat? Oil? Or is it something else (as well)?

VeronicaAug 22, 2015

Game Pie is always available at our food fayres and at certain gastro -pubs in England. It is too strong for me but many like it . I do sometimes make Venison Pie at New Year, Venison and Plum Pie usually.

We laugh about it being the "wrong " recipe but we like it that way.

VeronicaAug 22, 2015

My mother's and mother in law's "wrong" recipe.

Both these remarkable ladies used self raising flour as we call it in the UK ,and then they used more white fat than yellow. They then used just less than 1 tbsp. of ice cold water than the number of oz flour.

All the experts say not to use Self Raising flour for pastry and to use yellow fat and a minimum of water . These ladies didn't ! My mother in law then sprinkled flour on the base of the pie to stop the base getting soggy with filling. I think in the USA they call lard shortening.

We use this for general pastry making

8 ounces of Self Raising Flour
4 ounces of a mixture of white and yellow fat ( I use 2 1/2 white lard and 1 1/2 yellow fat)
pinch of salt for savoury pies
7 tbsp of ice cold water from the fridge

Rub the fat, flour and salt together til it looks like breadcrumbs but not too powder fine as the tiny lumps of fat help make the pastry what it is.

Add the water slowly and mix in. Don't use more water than this. Don't overwork it too roughly.

Wrap the pastry in cling film . Put the pastry in the fridge to chill for 30 minutes

Roll out the pastry and line the dish. Then sprinkle some of the flour over the base to soak up any excess moisture that make the base damp. Add the filling . Put the top on .

This works for us.

frankbeswickAug 22, 2015

I buy my game pies from farmers' markets. I cannot identify a particular restaurant that sells it . I like going to country shows, flower shows and specialist farmers' markets, and at these times and places there will be stalls selling specialist produce. I bought my latest game pie at the Tatton Flower show in July. If you ever visit a game fair, there will be game pies on sale.

Game is a specialist term for the kind of meat that people obtain by hunting, but rabbits are not normally included in it, as they are not considered tasty enough. At a game fair there will be stalls and shows connected with shooting and fishing.

I also like pork pies made from wild boar meat, which is richer than the pork from conventional pigs. Some of these wild boar are farmed, but farming them is a risky occupation.

When I was a child I had a relative who was a groundsman at a major football stadium, and during the week he had to keep the pitch free of pigeons, so he used to shoot them with a shotgun. Then he would collect the bodies and bring them home to share round the family for pigeon pie, and my mother used to have some, so I enjoyed pigeon pie as a young child. But he died when I was four, so I do not remember much. You generally use only the breasts of these birds.

MiraAug 22, 2015

And where is it served, Frank? If I visit the UK, where can I eat game pie?

frankbeswickAug 22, 2015

Game pie is very tasty. It can contain venison, wild boar, hare, partridge, grouse, pheasant, or anything else obtained by shooting.

MiraAug 22, 2015

I read Veronica's interesting comment and am writing here to ask her to consider posting her pastry recipe! Pastry is so difficult to get right. Of course, different people will like different things, but since she makes so many kinds of pie, I'd like to have her recipe :D

blackspanielgalleryAug 22, 2015

Thanks for the comment

blackspanielgalleryAug 22, 2015

Thanks for the comments.

I am not certain I would call a recipe wrong if the end result tastes better than using the right recipe. Perhaps improved is a better word.

VeronicaAug 22, 2015

Wonderful post. TY . Pies are a huge favourite in our family.

Strangely, my mother-in-law who lived 200 miles away from us used exactly the same wrong pastry recipe as my own mother to make her wonderful pastry. Our Mothers had never met and each did pastry exactly the same. How odd. I always use their pastry recipe and now my sons' wives use it too after trying several other recipes. At a family funeral in October I was speaking to an elderly relative who said she always used my mum's way but then changed it to a "proper " recipe and it wasn't as good.

Here in England we eat just as many savoury pies as sweet ones. Meat, pork pie with hot water pastry, cheese pie, Veg pies, fish pie are just as popular as sweet ones. A family favourite would be ground beef and carrots and peas. Meat pies can be eaten hot or cold. Pork pie would be eaten cold. The mill workers could take a savoury pie with them for lunch in days gone by. On Good Friday when Catholics don't eat any meat many people eat fish but my mother couldn't afford fish so we always had a cheese and onion pie. We continue this tradition to this day. My brother's family likewise. Good Friday is always Cheese and Onion Pie day. Some pies such as Shepherd's pie or Fish Pie would have a fluffy mashed potato topping over minced ( ground ) lamb or beef or fish.

MiraAug 22, 2015

I love pies, and you have made some nice suggestions for their transportation. I love that houndstooth cake-holder tote :)

WriterArtistAug 22, 2015

Pies are one of the most popular dishes enjoyed all over the world. Moreover, there are so many advantages that you have listed, it can be stored, reheated and transported easily. Pumpkin pies make awesome desserts for family dinner on Thanksgiving.
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