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wrylilt
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on 01/21/2012

This is a broader topic than I normally cover, so would appreciate any feedback. 

I am aware that I've got some duplicate content in there (the Pinterest ToS), so fingers crossed it is a small enough percentage to be ok, as it is very relevant. Otherwise I'll add some more content.

Thanks =)

 

http://wizzley.com/are-you-breaching-copyright-when-using-pinterest/

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dustytoes
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on 01/21/2012

I read your page and coincidentally I have just joined Pinterest.  I went around doing lots of re-pinning of interesting photos to create my boards, but haven't added anything from the internet (knowing me, I won't be able to figure that part out).

So I left a message on your page, but what about re-pinning of something that should not have been on there to begin with.  And how do we know?


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Sheri_Oz
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on 01/21/2012

I like this article very much. It is aesthetically presented, short enough to be a quick-read and long enough to have everything there on the topic one could need to understand that issue you are presenting.

I'm going over to another forum topic to see if there's a discussion of the issue there.


wrylilt
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on 01/21/2012

Dustytoes, I think that's one of the big problems. There are a lot of people who either unknowingly or not caringly pin content and then other people repin it with the assumption it must be ok to do so.

Without Pinterest taking a firm stance on this (yes they've legally covered themselves in the ToU) nothing will stop it happening. However, look at what recently happened to MegaUpload and with things like SOPA/PIPA. Soon, they may have to start enforcing.

Thanks Sheri. It's a big topic and I was trying to be as concise as possible!

wrylilt
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on 01/21/2012

Just realised I missed something obvious. That's why it's good to sleep on things!

What happens if you pin something with attribution - say I pin a photo from Wizzley, which that writer had taken from elsewhere. The writer has correctly attributed but I have not, because it's not linking directly back to the creator.

chefkeem
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on 01/21/2012

It doesn't matter how often an image gets repinned...the link to the originating site stays with it, and on the originating site should be the proper attribution. I could imagine that a copyright claim would trace the originating site.


Achim "Chef Keem" Thiemermann is the co-founder of a pretty cool new platform called...um...er...oh, yeah - Wizzley.com.
wrylilt
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on 01/21/2012

 

chefkeem: 21. Jan 2012, 18:25

It doesn't matter how often an image gets repinned...the link to the originating site stays with it, and on the originating site should be the proper attribution. I could imagine that a copyright claim would trace the originating site.

 

I know that... it's good that happens.

However I'm referring to outside Pinterest.

For instance, if I write an article and correctly attribute the photographer.... then someone pins that photo... it will link back to Wizzley, NOT to the original photographer. Which I think is a breach of copyright?

chefkeem
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on 01/21/2012

That's exactly what I meant to say. No matter from which Pinterest board (repinned) someone picks up on that image - it will be linked to the site (your wizzle) with the proper attribution. 

If someone pins the image from your wizzle, the wizzle's URL moves along with it. In other words, the image's attribution is one extra click removed. 

Now I'm confused. LOL Maybe I misunderstand you.


Achim "Chef Keem" Thiemermann is the co-founder of a pretty cool new platform called...um...er...oh, yeah - Wizzley.com.
wrylilt
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on 01/21/2012

I think you do understand me but... how many people are going to click the Pin on pinterest and THEN click the link on the Wizzle?

How many "removals" can you have? What if I took my article and attributed it to a site that had got it from ANOTHER site? Then I pinned that? That's like three times removed and the original artist gets nothing, or at best a very inquiring person click all the way back once in awhile.

Basically I see it as I'm using someone ELSE'S picture to promote MYSELF. If that makes sense? Since in the end I might be getting dozens of backlinks to my article, but they only ever get one backlink from me?

chefkeem
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on 01/21/2012

Now you got my head spinning...I (think I) see your point.

(Mind goes blank. Must sleep it over.)  Smile


Achim "Chef Keem" Thiemermann is the co-founder of a pretty cool new platform called...um...er...oh, yeah - Wizzley.com.
wrylilt
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on 01/21/2012

 

chefkeem: 21. Jan 2012, 21:00

Now you got my head spinning...I (think I) see your point.

(Mind goes blank. Must sleep it over.)  Smile

LoL! I have a tendency to do that to people. I have one of these brains that just likes delving.

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dustytoes
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on 01/22/2012

 

chefkeem: 21. Jan 2012, 21:00

Now you got my head spinning...I (think I) see your point.

(Mind goes blank. Must sleep it over.)  Smile

Now you know how I feel most of the time... Undecided


Lissie
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on 01/22/2012

As I repeatedly tell people - if you don't want photos shared - don't put them on the Internet! Particularly don't pictures on the Internet without their permission e.g. your kids. 

I always include my website's url as a watermark in any photo I use on my sites, and here, easy to do in Picasa - and well worthwhile IMHO 


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wrylilt
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on 01/22/2012

I do agree with you Lissie. But of course not everyone on the internet is as aware of how to use it correctly as most of us writers are. 

Also, as I pointed out in the article, pinning a photo you shouldn't be could outrank the original image in search results and lower traffic for the creator.

Edit: Not to mention legal trouble that could happen if you pinned the wrong image. And the advent of laws like SOPA/PIPA. Sure they've been stopped now, but chances are they'll keep trying till they bring in such a rule.

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