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Wordgigs Is Looking For More (A Lot More) Article Writers 4 Pay (USA Writers Only, Sorry)...

Jerrico_Usher
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on 03/29/2013

Catana I don't own wordgigs, I work there, well technically I work for the owner and encompass watching a lot of things, and have a lot of SEO duties I perform. Where wordgigs is concerned I manage writer and customer tickets, projects, and some complicated back end stuff I can't disclose due to my NDA, and many other things for the owner beyond this site- it's a writing mill but not mine.

I was actually defending the writers position not mine, and the realities of content mills and their importance in this industry, especially when your banking on 2.0 income which takes time. My point was simple, although I made it complex I'm sure, it's a good idea to diversify, to have your own business, a business model which is a flexible concept in IM business concepts. I was in agreement with chef on that point. THAT is the way to go, be it using wizzley and all 2.0 sites as your income generator- that's your business model, or starting a chain of blogs designed to make money like Wizzley does but for the individual... or a number  of configurations that work. 

BUT...

My other point is that you don't always get to go straight to the top or progressively make it in this business without some form of training/motivation and an income to keep you from giving up, anything coming in will help you gain perspective but if your goals are set too high i.e. you want to survive on your business right away, then the alternative route is to do both, to build your business but also write your way to paying your bills while you struggle to learn, adapt, and grow your business.

You can do this at wordgigs, elance, or thousands of other places... they all work, WG isn't the only game in town they're just a game in town.

It's no different from working at a 7-11 if you plan to buy a franchise one day- you do the work even if you have a Doctorate in business, pouring coffee and ringing people up, being the servant, because you know that this job will both sustain you and give you the training you need to actually own and even to convince the franchise board you're competent enough to own a 7-11 in x number of years... 

I didn't log in to upset anyone or to start a riot of long posts (which turned into cake!) I just wanted to offer up a resource to those interested  I'm not defending against chef's position at all but I didn't want people to believe that there was only one way to go either- some can start their business model right away, figure out what they like and run with it, others though have to run through the treadmill head first, where the money isn't high for the work, but it's training, it's money to get by, and it's something that as Arlene said, teaches you to discipline your time to a deadline, a schedule, and your quality of work... it's good training... and realistically 500 words isn't a book, it's barely even a wizzle :)...  

Realistically, also, both mine and Chef's position don't actually clash, because both are valid positions that work in the real world, it does depend on your goal, your needs, and what you're willing to do to make it, make sure you don't lose motivation, and tune yourself up for that business, plan, or whatever your goal.

Back to cake...

Guest
on 03/30/2013

 

JoHarrington: 03/29/2013 - 08:26 PM

Total tangent, but is there actually a Black Forest where all this cake is coming from?

Absolutely. Down south of Germany there is the Schwarzwald. Translation = Schwarz - Black, Wald = Forest. It has cherries in it though and I'm not that fond of cherries.


Described by one of my clients as 'a literary grammarian', writing, researching and reading are requirements for sanity, at least this side of the keyboard.
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on 03/30/2013

 

Sam: 03/29/2013 - 08:41 PM

 

JoHarrington: 03/29/2013 - 08:33 PM

I have a mental image of a forest made out of gateaux that people hike through now.   I know that you all have things like this over on the continent.   I've read Hansel and Gretel.  I saw that house.

Lebkuchenhaus! But a forest made out of whipped cream, choco biscuit and cherries sounds even nicer ;-) SY

Ahhhhhh, Lebkuchen, now you're talking!

And what a geeky Easter bunny! He'd not be out of place here at Revisionparty.

 


Described by one of my clients as 'a literary grammarian', writing, researching and reading are requirements for sanity, at least this side of the keyboard.
Guest
on 03/30/2013

 

Sam: 03/29/2013 - 08:00 PM

 

WordChazer: 03/29/2013 - 07:50 PM

Another German? Hipp.Hurrah! SY

 

Adopted for the weekend. Spending Osterfeiern in Saarbrucken E-Werk venue with friends and fellow demo sceners. Just about to head to bed after a long and good day sightseeing and working on articles.

I haven't a clue what you are speaking about - but it sounds like fun! Enjoy! SY

E-Werk is a concert venue and meeting space in the Burbach area of Saarbrucken.

A demo scene party is basically being a geek for the whole weekend, Some of us are being more sensible than others and have booked hotels and such for the weekend. Some are more slobbish and have been drunk since yesterday lunchtime and are now reeling round yelling obscenities, singing loudly off key, showing so-called comedies and generally behaving as if they never yet left primary school!

They shall reap what they sow tonight though as I plan on being obnoxiously loud in their general direction all evening on about a quarter of the alcohol they've consumed so far...


Described by one of my clients as 'a literary grammarian', writing, researching and reading are requirements for sanity, at least this side of the keyboard.
HollieT
Posts: 379
on 03/30/2013

Du nicht beißen die Bettwanzen entweder! :)

This is meant for Sam, btw. I'm about 24 hours too late.Laughing

LizM
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on 03/31/2013

Just now seeing this.  It's been a rough couple weeks (2 relatives passed and I lost my two 11 year old kitties) so excuse me if I'm a bit...less polished in speech than usual.

 

In my opinion, low pay is fine for really short blurbs (under 100 words) but anything more is just a time suck.  "But you're not doing anything else with that time" argument falls flat with me because while I might not be writing in that time I'm living.  Taking care of family, myself, or even just reading.  Living is important too.  At least with Wizzley, the earning potential is not capped AND we aren't signing away copyright or all other usage rights.  I loudly applaud Wizzley's "delete it when you leave and it is yours again" stance.

 

Of course, the higher paying gigs are not easy to get but they are out there.  The last contract work I had (5 year contract) paid just under $100 for 600 words with a bonus based on page view levels.  Other recent per article work was $70 and $75 for around 600 words.  I've also done $15 for 250 word blog posts.  Pay scales vary wildly but I just can't see writing for slave labor wages.  I'd rather take the chance on an advertising model like Wizzley where work continues to earn.

 

Quite honestly, the articles churned out at dozens a day rarely do more than make readers mad.  The quality just isn't there. 

 

Just my two cents worth.

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