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My Wizzography- An Anglo- Irish Viking teacher with a gi-normous family

I was recommended to do a Wizzography, so here goes. My initial response was that there is nothing to write about. I lead a quiet life and am happy with it that way.

I was born in Withington South Manchester to parents from 2 Manchester Irish Catholic families. As a child and to this day, I always felt I was Irish. I never felt any attachment whatsoever to Britain and I never shall. Imagine my surprise recently when I had my Ethnicity DNA done. But more of that later. Life never turns out as we expect does it . The one constant is my wonderful, wonderful family and extended family whom I absolutely love. My immediate extended family ( brothers' families ) on my side has 27 people and my husband's immediate extended family has 34 people then we start on first cousins. My husband has 54 first cousins , just first cousins. We can't start counting any further. My father in law was the youngest of 15 and my mother in law the 2nd of 9. My dad was the 7th of 11 children. So, maybe not the largest family on the planet but fairly large.
Veronica

My men

This is me with my menfolk, husband of nearly 38 years and 2 sons and grandson. I absolutely love them to bits. They are all very good to me.

me and my men

New arrival

Since that photo of course we have a granddaughter and a new daughter in law.

The 8 of us are below .

My nuclear family

Schooling

I was fortunate enough to have a very good education at a leading Manchester Convent School. The nuns were all Irish and I just felt that I was too. The friends I made there are still very important to me 47 years on and last month I attended the wedding of one of them. How lovely to have a group photo of 7 girls who had been at school together all those years ago and are still in contact.

I am the third left.

Me with school friends
wth business partner

I was an infants' teacher for 30 years but was never comfortable doing it although I was deemed to be good at it.

At college 48 years ago next month,  I met the love of my entire life and we will have been married 38 years in October.

In 2008 I left teaching and started my own education drama company in 2010. It is called Yellow Brick Road Workshops and is history/drama-based. We go into schools and do workshops with the children. My business partner and I laugh EVERY DAY.

 

 

Ancient Greek goddesses
WW2 workshop photo

Church and music

My husband and I love classical music and often go to Manchester's Bridgwater Hall to concerts.

Religion plays a large part in my life and we have an active church community. It gives us an active social life as well as prayer life.

My DNA

I have been told by many medics that I have Viking hands and must have Viking/Scandinavian ancestry because of this hand condition I have.

Consequently, when I got the opportunity to have my ethnicity DNA done I jumped at the opportunity. I sent off my saliva sample in the equipment provided and waited expectantly.  I anticipated, 55% English, 44% Irish and 1 % Scandinavian. Well there had to be some Scandinavian somewhere. How wrong was I ?

The results came back and we have 7 ethnicities not 3. There are two main regions and 5 sub-regions. Although a British passport holder, British is one of my sub regions genetically.  

57% Irish

15% Scandinavian

13% English

7% Spanish

4% Eastern European

3% Western European

1% Finnish/  Russian Border 

 

So I AM mainly Irish afterall. It doesn't change anything but at least I know that I am really a Viking and I know whom to blame for my bad hands. The Vikings of course plundered and raped in Ireland so that is possibly where it is from.

 

Therefore,  Wife, Mother , Teacher, Business Woman, Historian. Which leaves my favourite role until last, GRANDMOTHER. I expected to love my grandchild but never expected how MUCH I would love him. As grandparents we want to protect them and guard them from harm even more than as parents. As grandparents we know what life's problems lie ahead and we want to stop them happening. I love it though and he makes me laugh.

 

 

grandson on the beach
my new granddaughter

My big brother

I have added a photo of my big brother Frank Beswick at a family Baptism last weekend. There is a family resemblance between us although of course I am far prettier!

My Big Bruv
Me with two of my brothers

Updated October 12, 2023

Comments

VeronicaJan 24, 2018

TY Dusty
I have started to write down 3 things each evening that I am glad about. It is difficult some days but I do this every day. It cheers me up no end to see what I am thankful for Also looking back over the weeks

I have always thanked God in my prayers but writing 3 things down is just marvellous.

dustytoesJan 24, 2018

You are lucky indeed. Love the photos.

frankbeswickJan 13, 2018

Ethnicity is complex, for even if we say that we are a certain amount English [whatever] we have only gone back so far, and as you say there have been migrations in the pastprevious to this date. When English are told that they are such a per cent Ukrainian, this nonsense comes from the fact that of the three groups to settle England after the Ice Age one originated in the Ukraine, and so the thre combine into the first elements of the English population. I would just lump these groups together as English.

I am beginning to think that it is more apt to ask with which community one identifies, as this would be a better guide to who you are than tight racial divisions are.

GuestJan 12, 2018

Sounds like a wonderful family, Veronica! You've got me wondering about my own ethnic background. Because all four of my grandparents were born in Ireland, I've always assumed I was only Irish, but that's hardly likely with what we know about migrations. Knowing these details opens up a window into the past. Imagine all those stories of your ancestors at a time when travel was more difficult than it is today.

frankbeswickSep 2, 2017

Interesting.

VeronicaSep 2, 2017

Our youngest brother has also had this operation on his hand and his youngest daughter suffers occasionally with her hands already at her young age.

frankbeswickSep 2, 2017

Is the problem worse in people with small hands, such as yourself. My genetics are similar to yours, though not identical, but it is noted in the family that I have relatively large hands, certainly larger than those of Bernard, [the other brother in the picture.] Do you think that my relatively large hands might afford some kind of defence against this condition?

Slight correction. The book that I cited in an earlier comment is The Origins of the British.

VeronicaSep 2, 2017

Yes indeed , The two brothers pictured are my oldest and youngest . They both married friends of mine so are still friends AND in laws too.

Some people of Scandinavian descent have a thick tendon running horizontally across the palm of the hand under the fingers. As we age this tendon in some people of Scandinavian origin starts to thicken even more and nodes develop at the base of each finger. The fingers bend over them and can't be released back without difficulty or else they stick in a bent position. They often need surgery, which I have had on four of my fingers.

DerdriuMarrinerSep 2, 2017

Veronica, What do Scandinavian/Viking hands look like? In another article, you describe two of your brothers marrying friends of yours. Is the photo of you with Frank and another brother the siblings whose wives are your friends and in-laws?

frankbeswickAug 31, 2017

They may be accounting Lancashire as part of the North Midland's genetic community, as it is at the southern end of Northern England. For a good analysis of the genetics of the English read The Blood of the British by Oppenheimer. He states that the aboriginal British after the Ice Age were composed of three groups; one from the Ukraine, one from the Moravian Ice Age Refuge and one from Basqueland. Eastern European DNA.is therefore an element of the Eastern British population's genetic heritage, for despite the historical nonsense we were taught at school, the pre-Saxon Britons were not extincted or forced to Wales, but left descendants in England.

While I am convinced by the science of these investigations, I am not convinced by the historical interpretations placed upon the data, which sometimes fail to take into account historical complexities of the population story.

VeronicaAug 31, 2017

According to Ancestry testing labs, my genetic community analysis has nothing from the Eastern English genetic community. I am in the West of Ireland and North Midlands English. I have nothing in the North West England genetic community. My husband has East of England in his community analysis.

frankbeswickAug 30, 2017

Just to return to your genealogy. You mention that you [and therefore I] are seven per cent Spanish. This genealogical component will come from our father, whose maternal ancestry came from South West Ireland,where several Armada Galleons were wrecked. Their crews were given shelter by some of the Irish and many remained living in Ireland, where they married into the Irish population. But interestingly, the galleons wrecked in South West Ireland were predominantly Portuguese, so it is probably more apt for you to say that you have Portuguese ancestry, though there is not much difference between Spanish and Portuguese. You could just say Iberian.

You mention that the Vikings plundered and raped in Ireland. They also settled in two main places: Dublin and Limerick. As our grandmother's father came from Limerick [in South West Ireland] you can trace your Scandinavian ancestry to there. The Limerick Norse were Norwegian rather than Danish, so you can probably link the one per cent Russian-Finnish border DNA to Limerick as well

The four per cent Eastern European is probably Eastern English. DNA studies indicate that the earliest Britons after the Ice Age included an element whose ancestors had migrated from the Ukraine, so it is probably more apt just to include this element simply as English. The "English"element in your DNA is likely to be a mixture of Celtic British and Anglo-Saxon, in your case Angle, as the Saxons did not settle in Lancashire, whereas some Angles did.I think it correct to say that the Eastern English component of our mutual genetic heritage is quite small. We are very much Western, Irish, whom the Norse called Westmen, and North West English.

VeronicaAug 29, 2017

Thank you Margie
My "nuclear family", ( my husband, sons and their families )
my "immediate family" ( My brothers and their families ) and my
"extended family " (aunts cousins in-laws etc. ) are absolutely everything to me.

GuestAug 29, 2017

I loved reading about you and meeting your family! I see God has blessed you with a good life and a wonderful family! Grandkids are a special blessing to grandparents! Beautiful story!

VeronicaAug 3, 2017

Indeed I am sure of it! :) .... He is good in every way and a gentleman.

blackspanielgalleryAug 3, 2017

I bet Frank already read your comment. I believe he reads much on Wizzley. And is a really good writer.

VeronicaAug 3, 2017

BSG

Frank is indeed my most favourite brother. He is good, clever, kind, supportive and caring. But I would never tell him so .... :)
The business is small but fulfilling. TY

blackspanielgalleryAug 3, 2017

I finally got to see a larger picture of Frank.
Your small business is interesting, and different.

VeronicaAug 25, 2016

A new photo above including my newborn, stunning granddaughter.
She's a beaut.

And also one of me, Frank and another of our brothers at a family wedding last weekend.

VeronicaMay 14, 2016

TY will take a look xx

MiraMay 14, 2016

Hi Veronica, I only just saw your comment about Easter. I wrote about it here:
https://wizzley.com/traditional-transylvanian-and-romanian-easter-foods/

VeronicaMay 14, 2016

I have added a recent photo of Frank Beswick to my Wizzography for anyone who is interested.

VeronicaMay 7, 2016

Ty. Yes we love our job and have fun , laughing every day but it is a serious thing and we believe in what we do, totally. We present the curriculum through drama and literacy in a way that every child can access. Autistic pupils, pupils with English as a second language, pupils with behavioural needs, any child can learn through our workshop style and teaching. Therefore although we do laugh, the children do learn.

Yesterday, we were doing Ancient Egypt workshops in a deprived area of Manchester. On Monday, we are doing a literacy workshop for 7 year olds based on Pirates. The following week it is WW1 to 11 year olds.

We love it because we believe in it.

MBCMay 7, 2016

It looks like you and your partner have a blast doing drama! Nice to get to know you.

VeronicaMar 29, 2016

How do you celebrate Easter, Mira,; if you don't mind telling us. I would love to know. Does your Lent continue until then ?

MiraMar 29, 2016

Yes, we're (Eastern) Orthodox Christians.

VeronicaMar 28, 2016

Thank you .

frankbeswickMar 28, 2016

Orthodox Easter,no doubt. The Catholic and the Orthodox have different calendars.

VeronicaMar 28, 2016

May 1st ? That's interesting . Please tell me why ! I love hearing how other traditions celebrate . I think we should all have a knowledge of other cultures as this promotes respect and tolerance.

Frank probably knows.

MiraMar 28, 2016

Beautiful photo, Veronica! :) Happy Easter! (We'll celebrate it later here, on May 1!)

VeronicaMar 28, 2016

I have added a new photo of me with "all my men" .

Happy Easter March 2016 to you all.

MiraSep 23, 2015

You put links to your pages in the text. You can do it by simply inserting linked text, or you can use the Article module (it's there with Amazon and Zazzle modules).

Fun Wizzography, by the way! Good to meet you :)

VeronicaSep 23, 2015

how do I do that ?

MBCSep 23, 2015

Nice to meet you! Now you should link to your pages.

VeronicaSep 22, 2015

PS I have added two new pictures of me with my wonderful business partner doing our workshops. Ancient Greece and WW2.

VeronicaSep 1, 2015

Katie

Oh that is fantastic. I am glad I had my DNA done on ancestry. I had a surprise too with mine .

Huge families are good aren't they. We moan and complain about them , but we love them deep down.

Every Christmas Eve I do lunch for several of the family. I never know how many are coming. I do a hot buffet and they all sit round with plates of steaming food. They sit on the floors, the stairs, . lean against walls, chatting and laughing MY nieces and nephews bring their partners, spouses, babies, everyone swaps presents and cards and we laugh . I am dashing round like a mad thing in a large apron and my husband is doing drinks for everyone. The little ones are running round all excited. I can have up to 30 of my side for hot buffet lunch on Christmas Eve. Christmas starts there for me, Christmas Eve with my wonderful family of happy eaters. I wouldn't have it any other way.

katiem2Aug 31, 2015

So good to meet you here at Wizzley. I love your page, it is so personable I feel like I know you already. I love big families. I too come from a huge Scotch/Irish family. I also had my DNA test which was a surprise, I thought I was more Irish than anything but found out I was Scottish 1st, Irish 2nd and rounded out with 5% Welsh.

frankbeswickAug 21, 2015

I didn't believe in reincarnation in my last life, but I do in this one!

Seriously though, the Lancashire population has been interacting with Ireland for centuries. The first interaction was in the nine hundreds when Dublin Vikings brought Irish slaves, and then the Irish were pouring in for labouring work from the eighteenth century onwards, and this was accelerated in the time of the famine. You cannot pull Lancashire and Ireland apart. This is especially so of South Lancashire, where we both come from.

The genetic test that you did can only distinguish where there are identifiable differences. When nations share genes it becomes impossible to distinguish clearly, which is not the case with Anglo-Saxons, Danes and Friesians.

VeronicaAug 21, 2015

I don't believe in reincarnation at all.

I am not Lancashire Catholic. My Lancashire England ancestors weren't Catholic after the Reformation. They quite happily changed sides in the 1500's. My granddad was born to an Irish Catholic Mother and an English Anglican Father over 350 years after the Reformation.

The ethnicity DNA test is so refined it can distinguish between countries of origin. It is really accurate.

frankbeswickAug 21, 2015

English DNA contains, according to Oppenheimer, elements of several groups, including some from Eastern Europe, some from Central and Western Europe and some from Basque lands, along with other small groups. This Eastern European input explains your Eastern European genes.

The recipe for a Lancashire Catholic is "Take equal volumes of English and Irish, stir well for several generations. " As you clearly have some English blood, your Lancashire ancestors will contain many Norwegians, and this explains some of your Scandinavian blood, though you could get some if you have ancestors from Limerick in Ireland. Your Lancashire ancestors contain few Anglo-Saxons and Danes, but many native Britons. Your Russian will come via the Norse.

Your Spanish will come from Armada sailors, though they may have been Portuguese, as many of them were in the galleons shipwrecked off the South Western Irish coast. If you add your 57% Irish to 7% Spanish you get to 64 %. Then work out that your Scandinavian plus Russian adds up to 16% which could be divided between Lancashire and Limerick you get to about 72 % from or via Ireland, roughly three quarters. Your Spanish/Portuguese ancestors are likely to have settled in County Clare, near Limerick, as the O' Brien gave them refuge in that county. Clare, Limerick and Galway seem to be roots,

The problem with genetic elements like this is that English and Irish share genetic heritage. Oppenheimer argued that the original settlers from Iberia [Basqueland] contributed 88% of Irish genes, 85 percent of Welsh genes, 78% of Scottish and 68% of English. To make matters more complex you cannot genetically distinguish between Anglo-Saxon, Dane and Friesian.

You are what you feel yourself to be.

frankbeswickAug 21, 2015

What would you say to someone who says that you might be an Irishwoman reincarnated? It would explain why you have such a sense of identity with Ireland. Reincarnation is the best evidenced form of the afterlife.
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