Nor is Twilight the only movie to shake it off. The Hunger immediately comes to mind. No-one whined about Miriam and John walking about in broad daylight. Incidentally, I was reminded about The Hunger in other ways too. The emphasis on posturing and the arty atmospheric shots were shared between the two movies. It's just that New Romanticism had been switched for Emo.
There is an obvious insertion though. The fact that direct sunlight will cause any Twilight vampire's skin to sparkle is new.
I'd heard such disparaging things about this aspect, that I expected it to be more than it was. It was a single scene. Bella may have gushed that Edward looked like he was covered in diamonds and beautiful. It just seemed creepy to me. It was a decent enough innovation though and not worth the fuss it's engendered.
We also get Edward explaining how everything about him has evolved to enthrall humans, just like Bella. His aspect, his gaze, his very scent has an effect close to hypnosis on the object of his desire. That's one of the oldest tropes in the book. Bela Lugosi's Dracula was practically defined by it.
So far so detractors-stop-being-so-snobby. But none of the above really takes into account the real issue with Twilight. That is that it dilutes the vampiric genre down so much, that it practically becomes meaningless.
Twilight is sanitized vampirism. Violence and gore are implied, but not with the Cullens. They are vegetarians! They refuse point blank to feed off humans. It's like Louis from Interview with the Vampire cloned himself half a dozen times and formed a family. For him, it was existential angst. For the Cullens, it's a way of life.
Mr Cullen is even the town's doctor. Far from preying upon the humans around him, he seeks to heal them.
Nor do any of these vampires have fangs. While that may be historically accurate, insofar as the pre-Hollywood legends would have it, it also removes a huge part of the modern allure of vampires. The extending fangs, upon viewing an attractive human, has an obvious phallic symbolism.
Twilight is very chaste. Edward is so afraid that proximity to Bella will cause him to lose control, that he avoids her like the plague. These vampires are not only non-sexual, in a way which runs contrary to the whole late 19th, 20th and early 21st century genre, but they fear sex.
There may be a lot of talk about feeding frenzies, but it does leave you wondering precisely why anyone would fear the 'monstrous' Edward Cullen. He's the kind of vampire which you could (and Bella did) take home to meet your Mum and Dad.
However all of this was missing the point, at least to my mind. Twilight wasn't really a vampire movie. It was a High School romance, with the added twist of vampires.
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JoHarringtonDec 27, 2014
JoHarringtonApr 25, 2013
I'm guilty too, as I haven't read the books. Perhaps it's the direction which makes Bella's approach in the movies so bad. Could the context be in the books? There's always a certain amount of predator versus human in vampire stories. It often has a sexual element and looks and sounds like abuse, particularly if you depict the vampire as more human than beast.
Is Bella any more foolish than, say, Lucy in 'Dracula'? Personally I'd say 'yes'. Bella knows Edward's nature and seems to go out of her way to place herself in danger. Lucy fights the very notion of what Count Dracula is, but still ends up in thrall. When she goes to him, she's in a kind of trance. Bella, in all her sobriety and with all her faculties working, apes Lucy enthralled.
Thanks for your take on it. Always welcome!
EmberApr 25, 2013
I am not certain how these bits are portrayed in the movies vs the books. I don't have a problem with it in general, I realize these types of things are in movies all the time... My real problem is that it is geared/targeted to a young crowd, and all of these issues are being idealized for them, and it is a romantic relationship younger kids are essentially idolizing and encouraging (such as when people were picking which boy they hoped Bella would chose etc.) I'm interested in hearing your opinions on some of the later films if you end up watching them.
Re the vampires in general, I'm not a die-hard fan like you, so many I didn't pick up as much of the complaining about how it was ruined as you did. My thoughts were just my own speculation as to why it got so much hate. Thank you for enduring my rant :p
JoHarringtonApr 25, 2013
KathleenDuffyApr 25, 2013
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JoHarringtonApr 25, 2013
I also foresee that I'm going to have a LOT to say on the subject of the rape of Bella, if and when I get there. Thank you for the warning here.
JoHarringtonApr 25, 2013
Thanks for explaining the vampire backlash/counter-backlash. I'd not really slotted it into context in my head.
As for the acting, I didn't think it was that bad. There was a lot of 'here's me looking very pretty' type posing, but I figured that was simply the direction. There's a lot more of that in 'The Hunger', which is seen as a cult classic these days. The 'Twilight' cast were all believable in their roles, which is the main thing. It was the script which lacked a great deal to my mind.
I said it wasn't as bad as I had been led to believe, because I thought I was coming into a movie which chucked 150 years of vampire lore out of the window. I was here for the vampires. The reaction of Bella was certainly the weak link there. She was no Lucy. If I had to compare her to anyone, it would be Madeleine from 'Interview with the Vampire', and Louis disdained her too.
I did see a LOT of Louis in Edward Cullen (alongside Lestat's propensity to show off), but the things which motivated Louis had been stripped away. You were left with the effect, but not the cause. It did make me wonder if Stephanie Meyers was familiar with Anne Rice's work, despite her protestations that she did no research into vampire lore whatsoever.
KathleenDuffyApr 25, 2013
EmberApr 25, 2013
I could care less that there are vampires in this movie, it has nothing to do with why I dislike it. I wish I could apologize for the rant.
EmberApr 25, 2013
The issue of rape comes about the first time Bella and Edward have sex. Edward essentially 'loses control of himself' in his lust for Bella. The next morning Bella wakes up bruised, disoriented, cannot remember what has happened to her, and she's no longer a virgin! She's actually frightened, and then Edward comes in and explains what happened, and why, and why it was okay. Anyways, the after effects that Bella wakes up with sure do sound a whole lot like, oh say something like rohypnol? This is one of the big reasons I am vehemently opposed to Twilight...
And people wonder why things happen, like a rape victim being asked to stay quiet by her school board, who she went to for help, in order to save their best player on a sports team (the kid who they wrongly protected turned around and raped another girl about two weeks later). Or like what happened in Ohio, when it took months for anyone to do anything about the rapists on a football team, and then when something does happen the news reporters are talking about how badly they feel for the boys whose lives and sports careers are going to be ruined forever. Or that college student, who was passed out drunk and a bunch of frat boys filmed themselves raping her, and then spread the video all around her school and the very next day she killed herself...and the press and people from her university started saying things like 'it wasn't just the rape and video that went viral on her school campus that caused her to kill herself, she must have had some deep issues she'd been dealing with.'
EmberApr 25, 2013
With all that said, I hate Twilight. I hate it because of what it teaches little boys and little girls, who are the ones watching, learning, and being socialized from it. You started to notice the disturbing nature of Bella's relationship and the way she responds to things, but it only gets worse in the other movies. In fact, it has been identified that their relationship literally has all of the key characteristics of an abusive relationship, as outlined by sociologist and psychologists. I believe, apart from mediocre acting, that this is another key reason this series has received so much hate. I recall after the first movie coming out, that people said the books were better and that it 'definitely wasn't the new Harry Potter,' so it got made fun of a lot...but the true hate for all things Twilight came later on when people really realized what this saga had in it.
JoHarringtonApr 24, 2013
Thank you for your comment.
KimApr 24, 2013